[Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

trishs slosser at metrocast.net
Wed May 27 16:15:21 UTC 2009


I would like to have been shown some universal body language, 
other than nodding or shaking my head in answer.  "Blind girl 
can't dance!"
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at gmail.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:51:23 -0600
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>Allot of blind people like to touch because the blind schools 
never told
>them that you can't do that.
>I know with the one I whent to did that, The parants will let the 
schools
>raise the kids.
>I know of allot of people that came out, and they will touch and 
rock, and
>shake there heads all the time, and people see that and think we 
are all
>like that.
>Or they think we count steps.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "NFBnet Blind Talk 
Mailing List"
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>> Look "normal?"  That's open to individual interpffetation.  I,
>> unfortunately, think it sucks to appear blind, or worse, to 
appear blind
>> and helpless, or lost.  I realize that these are manageable 
stresses, but
>> man!  That'll weigh on a Soul!

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net
>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:41:55 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>>>Can you ever say that again Trish.

>>>This very morning, for example, I was at the doctor's office
>> being
>>>officially discharged, (from an auto accident in which I was) and
>> I heard
>>>the receptionist saying "hi".  Her face was turned to me, and so,
>> I reckoned
>>>she was addressing me; but no.  She was talking on the phone.  I
>> guess maybe
>>>turning one's face toward the person just isn't enough sometimes;
>> but, I
>>>think that it stands you a better chance of looking normal if you
>> do so.

>>>So far as touching is concerned,  My girlfriend just loves a nice
>> very long
>>>rub on the soles of her callused constantly bare feet; but, I
>> don't go for
>>>the stereotypical blind monster who has only sockets for eyes and
>> feels all
>>>over people's faces;  yuck!!!

>>>Sincerely,
>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years
>> abroad you
>>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from
>> your own land"
>>>George Seferis

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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>>>I hate it when that happens!  I walk to the appointment desk, the
>>>lady behind it says "hi", I start to state my name, and the
>>>person I'm with says "she's on the phone."  Grrrr!

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:21:43 -0400
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>>>>Diane,

>>>>I am not a person who readily hugs or touches others.  But, I
>>>don't mind if
>>>>someone touches my arm or wants a hug.  I think, when it comes to
>>>someone,
>>>>like a waitress speaking, it would be easier if they would touch
>>>a shoulder
>>>>or my hand.  There have been times when someone is talking to me,
>>>but I
>>>>didn't know it, or they might have been talking to someone else,
>>>near me,
>>>>and I respond.  That's sometimes difficult.  Most of the time,
>>>you can tell
>>>>if someone is looking toward you when they're speaking.  But, if
>>>there's
>>>>someone else, in the same direction, it's hard to know,
>>>specifically, who
>>>>they're looking at.

>>>>This is turning out to be a very interesting topic.

>>>>Cindy
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:41 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>>>>HI Paul,

>>>>This is an interesting topic and it also gets pretty complicated,
>>>at
>>>>least where I am concerned.

>>>>As far as your question about making that initial contact, I
>>>would say
>>>>it is very appropriate.  I would most certainly prefer a light
>>>touch on
>>>>my shoulder than having someone talk to someone who is with me,
>>>>inquiring as to what I might like to order, as if I weren't
>>>there, or as
>>>>if I were a child.  I do not  object to this at all.

>>>>I have noted in this discussion that there are several people who
>>>have
>>>>said they don't like to be touched.  I have the opposite problem.
>>>>Whether it has anything to do with blindness or not, I really
>>>don't
>>>>know, but I am a person who is tactile, and or affectionate with
>>>people
>>>>that I know.

>>>>This is gotten me crossways with several people, as I have
>>>learned,
>>>>sometimes the hard way, that some of us don't' appreciate being
>>>touched.

>>>>As a tactile person myself, that is something that I have a real
>>>hard
>>>>time fathoming or remembering.  I don't grab and cling to
>>>strangers by
>>>>any means, but when there is a person who I know, like or
>>>associate
>>>>with, it is not uncommon for me to reach out and want to hug
>>>someone or
>>>>look at their hairstyle, or place a hand gently on their arm or
>>>shoulder
>>>>when speaking to them.  I also welcome warm handshakes, hugs, and
>>>the
>>>>like from those whom I consider friends and associates.  I have
>>>had to
>>>>learn that some people object to this, and it isn't always easy
>>>to
>>>>remember.

>>>>Now, like I said, it gets complicated, because  what I do object
>>>to is
>>>>those well meaning sighted people, many of them strangers, who
>>>want to
>>>>grab me or my clothes or coat or whatever, thinking that they are
>>>>helping to guide me or saving me from falling off a curb or
>>>something
>>>>like that.

>>>>There is a lady who does this every day at the bus stop in the
>>>evening,
>>>>and I just want to slap her sometimes.  They wouldn't take
>>>liberties
>>>>with and/or manhandle a sighted person like that, and I do not
>>>>appreciate it either.

>>>>Diane Graves
>>>>Civil Rights Specialist
>>>>Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>>>Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>>>317-232-2647

>>>>"IT is service that measures success."
>>>>George Washington Carver


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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>On Behalf Of Weingartner, Paul
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:02 AM
>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>>>> This is an interesting topic that is very helpful because of the
>>>>candidness of the respondents.  Because of that I would like to
>>>ask a
>>>>question.
>>>>Sighted people use eye contact to initiate communication.
>>>Obviously,
>>>>that does not work for initiating communication with a person who
>>>is
>>>>blind.  That is why it is awkward for a waitress in a restaurant
>>>or for
>>>>a stranger in a mall to make first contact in a way to know the
>>>speaker
>>>>is addressing the person who is blind.
>>>>A number of totally blind friends recommend a light quick touch
>>>to let
>>>>them know they are the person being addressed, so that is what I
>>>>recommend.  I was wondering what some or you think.
>>>>Also, many people who are totally blind like to hold and cling
>>>during a
>>>>conversation.  That can get pretty awkward and down right
>>>embarrassing a
>>>>times.
>>>>I would appreciate your thoughts.


>>>>Paul Weingartner
>>>>Making the Cross Accessible
>>>>Center for the Blind of the Assemblies of God
>>>>P 417.831.1964   F 417.862.5120
>>>>www.blind.ag.org
>>>>www.blindonline.ag.org






>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>On Behalf Of Steve P.  Deeley
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:47 AM
>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>>>>It has nothing to do with blindness in my case.  I just hate
>>>being
>>>>touched.

>>>>Steve
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at gmail.com
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 8:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>>>>> Allot of sighted people think that they can't talk to us without
>>>>putting
>>>>> there hands on us.
>>>>> The thing is allot of people like my self really hate to be
>>>touched,
>>>>When
>>>>> we
>>>>> ask them to please take there hands off, they get mad.
>>>>> I guess there is no across the board answer for things like
>>>this.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:42 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>>>>>> This is a very complicated topic.  There are those, like me, who
>>>>don't
>>>>>> like being touched during conversations with individuals I
>>>really
>>>>don't
>>>>>> know very well.  I'm wondering if blind individuals understand
>>>>spacial
>>>>>> concepts during conversations.  You don't want to be too close
>>>during
>>>>a
>>>>>> conversation or too far away.  I suspect most of us who
>>>understand
>>>>this
>>>>>> art have had some coaching from sighted individuals whom they
>>>trust.
>>>>>> \
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind


>>>>>>>I was raised giving and receiving warm hand shakes, or in some
>>>>>>> situations, embraces and or kisses, all of which seem to me to
>>>be
>>>>>>> quite germ spreading!  I like the bowing idea a lot!

>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Joel Zimba <jzimba at cavtel.net
>>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:08:35 -0400
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind

>>>>>>>>Hi,

>>>>>>>>I love these kinds of topics.  I believe the issue of blind or
>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>is mostly meaningless when it comes to whether you should touch
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>or not.  It comes down more to how comfortable you are with what
>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>doing and your motivation for it.

>>>>>>>>The examples of folks talking with their hands is a great one.
>>>>>>> It's not
>>>>>>>>so much that they talk with their hands, but that touching is a
>>>>>>> means of
>>>>>>>>communication.  In fact, if you are comfortable enough with
>>>>>>> yurself to
>>>>>>>>touch someone else while speaking to them, you'll pull them into
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>paradigm.  This is common wisdom in the sales world.

>>>>>>>>For the blind among us, (myself included) this is most easily
>>>>>>> donw with
>>>>>>>>the back of the hand and making solid contact.

>>>>>>>>When it comes to shaking hands, I decided to take the initiative
>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>and often.  When someone doesn't take my hand, I leave it out
>>>>>>> there and
>>>>>>>>then eventually start snapping my fingers.  This calls attention
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>fact that the other people are not playing the social game.  I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>taught that it is not obligatory for women to shake hands.  Long
>>>>>>> ago I
>>>>>>>>decided that if women want equal rights, they can do the glad
>>>>>>> handing as
>>>>>>>>well, so I expect them to shake and I do the snapping as well.  I
>>>>>>>>sometimes let the elderly off the hook, though oddly, the older
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>is, the more likely they are to initiate or take my hand.  Proper
>>>>>>>>conduct seems to not always be taught to the younger generation.
>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>we all need to go back to finishing school.

>>>>>>>>Now, if someone could explain the bowing protocol to me so that
>>>>>>> my Asian
>>>>>>>>friends would be surprised and pleased by my manners, I would be
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>greatful.

>>>>>>>>Joel

>>>>>>>>On 5/23/2009 12:40 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gerardo,
>>>>>>>>> I am also blind as a result of RP and a clinical psychologist.
>>>>>>> My vision
>>>>>>>>> deteriorated at a different pace.  I drove a car until I was 27
>>>>>>> and did not
>>>>>>>>> require adaptive technology to read and write until I was about
>>>>>>> 40.  Now, at
>>>>>>>>> 61, I have little more than light perception.  When younger, I
>>>>>>> was often
>>>>>>>>> embarrassed when my wife kindly noted that someone was reaching
>>>>>>> out to shake
>>>>>>>>> my hand and I was not noticing.  Eventually, I learned to avoid
>>>>>>> this problem
>>>>>>>>> by taking the initiative.  On occasion I reach out to discover
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>> person has quickly turned their back or departed, no big deal.
>>>>>>> I have had
>>>>>>>>> no experience with the touching.  There are cultural differences
>>>>>>> in such
>>>>>>>>> nonverbal behaviors.  For example, cultures vary in terms of
>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>> regarded as personal space.  Groups vary in terms of how close
>>>>>>> they stand to
>>>>>>>>> each other when speaking, and also with regard to touching which
>>>>>>> is common
>>>>>>>>> in some cultures and taboo in others.  Perhaps your blindness
>>>>>>> has led you to
>>>>>>>>> exceed what is common in your culture or your parents may have
>>>>>>> felt bad for
>>>>>>>>> you when they saw you reach out to touch someone and the person
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> departed.  There are also a group of behaviors known as
>>>>>>> blindisms.  We all
>>>>>>>>> conduct little rituals of personal hygiene when alone which we
>>>>>>> would not do
>>>>>>>>> in front of others.  There is a tendency, particularly if one
>>>>>>> loses their
>>>>>>>>> vision gradually to assume that others see as we do.  I am often
>>>>>>> surprised
>>>>>>>>> by what others can see.  We assume that if we can't see
>>>>>>> something others can
>>>>>>>>> not either.  This can lead us to embarrass ourselves by
>>>>>>> performing these
>>>>>>>>> grooming rituals in public.  Recently, I have noticed that when
>>>>>>> I am walking
>>>>>>>>> and thinking about a conversation which I had or will have with
>>>>>>> someone, I
>>>>>>>>> am moving my lips as if I were speaking.  I am working on
>>>>>>> suppressing this
>>>>>>>>> behavior as I am certain that the sighted would see it as
>>>>>>> strange.  Behavior
>>>>>>>>> is so ritualized, and blindness can lead us to engage in some
>>>>>>> peculiar ones.
>>>>>>>>> As professionals, in particular, we don't want to be seen as odd
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> idiosyncratic.
>>>>>>>>> Jeff

>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Cindy Handel
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:55 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings;Behaviors in adults blind

>>>>>>>>> Gerardo,

>>>>>>>>> Most of the time, when I would like to shake the hand of a
>>>>>>> sighted person, I

>>>>>>>>> just extend my hand and they grasp it and we shake hands.

>>>>>>>>> As far as touching the arm of people, I've never done this.
>>>>>>> When do you do
>>>>>>>>> this?  If you're talking with someone, it shouldn't be
>>>>>>> necessary, since
>>>>>>>>> they're participating in the conversation.  I think we've all
>>>>>>> experienced a
>>>>>>>>> time when we're talking to someone and learn that they walked
>>>>>>> away.  Now, if

>>>>>>>>> you're referring to touching a person's arm to make sure they're
>>>>>>> still there

>>>>>>>>> as a way to insure that you still have their attention, that's
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> different.  I have met sighted people who talk with their hands
>>>>>>> and touch my

>>>>>>>>> arm or shoulder, for emphasis.  So, that might not be so
>>>>>>> unusual.

>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Gerardo Corripio"<gera1027 at prodigy.net.mx
>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind-Talk"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:35 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Greetings;Behaviors in adults blind


>>>>>>>>> Hi listers:
>>>>>>>>> I'm Gerardo from Mexico; 31 years old and a Psychologist working
>>>>>>> on my own
>>>>>>>>> in my private practice.
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully I'll be able to learn lots of great things from you
>>>>>>> guys,
>>>>>>>>> especially of the NFB way of viewing and living with blindness.
>>>>>>>>> Now for my debut question: I've been blind all my life due to
>>>>>>> RP; since I
>>>>>>>>> was a teenager I remember developing a habbit of touching the
>>>>>>> arm of the
>>>>>>>>> people constanly to be sure he/she was still there.  I continued
>>>>>>> to do this
>>>>>>>>> into adulthood until my family made the observation that this
>>>>>>> behavior isn't
>>>>>>>>> seen well by the sighted only a few days ago.  I'm still shocked
>>>>>>> by this
>>>>>>>>> observation to the point that now how to know if the person is
>>>>>>> still there?
>>>>>>>>> Yes, the voice gives feedback but when people talk it feels as
>>>>>>> if they're
>>>>>>>>> there but aren't there.  How have you coped with this situation
>>>>>>> in that you
>>>>>>>>> have to get rid of the habbit before-mentioned? Surely it has
>>>>>>> happened to
>>>>>>>>> some of you?
>>>>>>>>> also when shaking hands with sighted people how to find the hand
>>>>>>> to shake if
>>>>>>>>> the sighted person doesn't take the initiative?
>>>>>>>>> As you can see I've still have lots of tips and tricks to learn
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> blindness, thus my interest in joining the list.
>>>>>>>>> Gerardo


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