[Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
trishs
slosser at metrocast.net
Sat May 30 03:24:03 UTC 2009
Rows are different than striding foot steps. If I were doing
that on my own I'd definitely count rows. But, I'm too
co-dependant to go by myself.
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
>To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>,"NFBnet Blind Talk
Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:09:45 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>hi,
>so if you're at a ball game and you go to the restroom or get a
drink on
>your own, would you count steps from your row to the flat area or
ask
>someone numerous times what row is this?
>Bryan Schulz
>The BEST Solution
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net
>To: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "NFBnet Blind Talk
Mailing List"
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>> Well Gary, I really must respectfully take slight issue with
you on that
>> one. Why? A human step does tend to be a very subjective
thing;
>> depending
>> on how fast you're walking, the length of your stride, whether
you change
>> it or not ETC. To my way of thinking, there really ought to be
some
>> better
>> way of dealing with that.
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>> "Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years
abroad you
>> come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from
your own
>> land"
>> George Seferis
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>> barefootedray
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>> Perhaps my experience is not commonly shared, but there are
situations in
>> which I do count steps. It is helpful to me to know that my
hotel room is
>> 17
>> steps from the beginning of the corridor. I've gotten to where
I can count
>> them in the back of my mind and still carry on a conversation or
think
>> about
>> something else of importance while I'm doing it. The step
counting
>> technique
>> is not something I would like to try to use if I was 150 steps
away from
>> my
>> desired location, but I think there are times when a step count
gives me
>> information, where no other landmarks exist.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah Baughn" <sarahb006 at comcast.net
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>> Oh, yeah, I hate that one. I remember being taught in the first
grade to
>>> count steps, and then in the third grade or so, I started being
taught to
>>> use a cane, and I have never counted steps since. I hate it
when people
>>> think that we count steps, and I suspect that the reason that
one of the
>>> people in the school faculty wanted me to learn to count steps
is that
>>> they didn't know that blind people didn't do that, because they
weren't
>>> exposed to blind people before me, as I was the only blind
person in the
>>> school.
>>> Sarah
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at gmail.com
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>> Allot of blind people like to touch because the blind schools
never told
>>>> them that you can't do that.
>>>> I know with the one I whent to did that, The parants will let
the
>>>> schools
>>>> raise the kids.
>>>> I know of allot of people that came out, and they will touch and
rock,
>>>> and shake there heads all the time, and people see that and
think we are
>>>> all like that.
>>>> Or they think we count steps.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>> To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "NFBnet Blind Talk
Mailing
>>>> List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>> Look "normal?" That's open to individual interpffetation. I,
>>>>> unfortunately, think it sucks to appear blind, or worse, to
appear
>>>>> blind
>>>>> and helpless, or lost. I realize that these are manageable
stresses,
>>>>> but man! That'll weigh on a Soul!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net
>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:41:55 -0500
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>Can you ever say that again Trish.
>>>>>>This very morning, for example, I was at the doctor's office
>>>>> being
>>>>>>officially discharged, (from an auto accident in which I was) and
>>>>> I heard
>>>>>>the receptionist saying "hi". Her face was turned to me, and so,
>>>>> I reckoned
>>>>>>she was addressing me; but no. She was talking on the phone. I
>>>>> guess maybe
>>>>>>turning one's face toward the person just isn't enough sometimes;
>>>>> but, I
>>>>>>think that it stands you a better chance of looking normal if you
>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>So far as touching is concerned, My girlfriend just loves a nice
>>>>> very long
>>>>>>rub on the soles of her callused constantly bare feet; but, I
>>>>> don't go for
>>>>>>the stereotypical blind monster who has only sockets for eyes and
>>>>> feels all
>>>>>>over people's faces; yuck!!!
>>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years
>>>>> abroad you
>>>>>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from
>>>>> your own land"
>>>>>>George Seferis
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>>>>>>+1 (985) 360-3614
>>>>>>Cell:
>>>>>>+1 (985) 719-2938
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>>>>>>barefootedray
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:47 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>I hate it when that happens! I walk to the appointment desk, the
>>>>>>lady behind it says "hi", I start to state my name, and the
>>>>>>person I'm with says "she's on the phone." Grrrr!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net
>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:21:43 -0400
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>Diane,
>>>>>>>I am not a person who readily hugs or touches others. But, I
>>>>>>don't mind if
>>>>>>>someone touches my arm or wants a hug. I think, when it comes to
>>>>>>someone,
>>>>>>>like a waitress speaking, it would be easier if they would touch
>>>>>>a shoulder
>>>>>>>or my hand. There have been times when someone is talking to me,
>>>>>>but I
>>>>>>>didn't know it, or they might have been talking to someone else,
>>>>>>near me,
>>>>>>>and I respond. That's sometimes difficult. Most of the time,
>>>>>>you can tell
>>>>>>>if someone is looking toward you when they're speaking. But, if
>>>>>>there's
>>>>>>>someone else, in the same direction, it's hard to know,
>>>>>>specifically, who
>>>>>>>they're looking at.
>>>>>>>This is turning out to be a very interesting topic.
>>>>>>>Cindy
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov
>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:41 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>HI Paul,
>>>>>>>This is an interesting topic and it also gets pretty complicated,
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>least where I am concerned.
>>>>>>>As far as your question about making that initial contact, I
>>>>>>would say
>>>>>>>it is very appropriate. I would most certainly prefer a light
>>>>>>touch on
>>>>>>>my shoulder than having someone talk to someone who is with me,
>>>>>>>inquiring as to what I might like to order, as if I weren't
>>>>>>there, or as
>>>>>>>if I were a child. I do not object to this at all.
>>>>>>>I have noted in this discussion that there are several people who
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>said they don't like to be touched. I have the opposite problem.
>>>>>>>Whether it has anything to do with blindness or not, I really
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>know, but I am a person who is tactile, and or affectionate with
>>>>>>people
>>>>>>>that I know.
>>>>>>>This is gotten me crossways with several people, as I have
>>>>>>learned,
>>>>>>>sometimes the hard way, that some of us don't' appreciate being
>>>>>>touched.
>>>>>>>As a tactile person myself, that is something that I have a real
>>>>>>hard
>>>>>>>time fathoming or remembering. I don't grab and cling to
>>>>>>strangers by
>>>>>>>any means, but when there is a person who I know, like or
>>>>>>associate
>>>>>>>with, it is not uncommon for me to reach out and want to hug
>>>>>>someone or
>>>>>>>look at their hairstyle, or place a hand gently on their arm or
>>>>>>shoulder
>>>>>>>when speaking to them. I also welcome warm handshakes, hugs, and
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>like from those whom I consider friends and associates. I have
>>>>>>had to
>>>>>>>learn that some people object to this, and it isn't always easy
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>remember.
>>>>>>>Now, like I said, it gets complicated, because what I do object
>>>>>>to is
>>>>>>>those well meaning sighted people, many of them strangers, who
>>>>>>want to
>>>>>>>grab me or my clothes or coat or whatever, thinking that they are
>>>>>>>helping to guide me or saving me from falling off a curb or
>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>like that.
>>>>>>>There is a lady who does this every day at the bus stop in the
>>>>>>evening,
>>>>>>>and I just want to slap her sometimes. They wouldn't take
>>>>>>liberties
>>>>>>>with and/or manhandle a sighted person like that, and I do not
>>>>>>>appreciate it either.
>>>>>>>Diane Graves
>>>>>>>Civil Rights Specialist
>>>>>>>Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>>>>>>Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>>>>>>317-232-2647
>>>>>>>"IT is service that measures success."
>>>>>>>George Washington Carver
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>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>On Behalf Of Weingartner, Paul
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:02 AM
>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>> This is an interesting topic that is very helpful because of the
>>>>>>>candidness of the respondents. Because of that I would like to
>>>>>>ask a
>>>>>>>question.
>>>>>>>Sighted people use eye contact to initiate communication.
>>>>>>Obviously,
>>>>>>>that does not work for initiating communication with a person who
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>blind. That is why it is awkward for a waitress in a restaurant
>>>>>>or for
>>>>>>>a stranger in a mall to make first contact in a way to know the
>>>>>>speaker
>>>>>>>is addressing the person who is blind.
>>>>>>>A number of totally blind friends recommend a light quick touch
>>>>>>to let
>>>>>>>them know they are the person being addressed, so that is what I
>>>>>>>recommend. I was wondering what some or you think.
>>>>>>>Also, many people who are totally blind like to hold and cling
>>>>>>during a
>>>>>>>conversation. That can get pretty awkward and down right
>>>>>>embarrassing a
>>>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>I would appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>>>Paul Weingartner
>>>>>>>Making the Cross Accessible
>>>>>>>Center for the Blind of the Assemblies of God
>>>>>>>P 417.831.1964 F 417.862.5120
>>>>>>>www.blind.ag.org
>>>>>>>www.blindonline.ag.org
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:47 AM
>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>It has nothing to do with blindness in my case. I just hate
>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>touched.
>>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at gmail.com
>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>> Allot of sighted people think that they can't talk to us without
>>>>>>>putting
>>>>>>>> there hands on us.
>>>>>>>> The thing is allot of people like my self really hate to be
>>>>>>touched,
>>>>>>>When
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> ask them to please take there hands off, they get mad.
>>>>>>>> I guess there is no across the board answer for things like
>>>>>>this.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:42 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>>> This is a very complicated topic. There are those, like me, who
>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>> like being touched during conversations with individuals I
>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>> know very well. I'm wondering if blind individuals understand
>>>>>>>spacial
>>>>>>>>> concepts during conversations. You don't want to be too close
>>>>>>during
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>> conversation or too far away. I suspect most of us who
>>>>>>understand
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>> art have had some coaching from sighted individuals whom they
>>>>>>trust.
>>>>>>>>> \
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>>>>I was raised giving and receiving warm hand shakes, or in some
>>>>>>>>>> situations, embraces and or kisses, all of which seem to me to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>> quite germ spreading! I like the bowing idea a lot!
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: Joel Zimba <jzimba at cavtel.net
>>>>>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:08:35 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings; Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>I love these kinds of topics. I believe the issue of blind or
>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>is mostly meaningless when it comes to whether you should touch
>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>or not. It comes down more to how comfortable you are with what
>>>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>>>>doing and your motivation for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>The examples of folks talking with their hands is a great one.
>>>>>>>>>> It's not
>>>>>>>>>>>so much that they talk with their hands, but that touching is a
>>>>>>>>>> means of
>>>>>>>>>>>communication. In fact, if you are comfortable enough with
>>>>>>>>>> yurself to
>>>>>>>>>>>touch someone else while speaking to them, you'll pull them into
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>paradigm. This is common wisdom in the sales world.
>>>>>>>>>>>For the blind among us, (myself included) this is most easily
>>>>>>>>>> donw with
>>>>>>>>>>>the back of the hand and making solid contact.
>>>>>>>>>>>When it comes to shaking hands, I decided to take the initiative
>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>and often. When someone doesn't take my hand, I leave it out
>>>>>>>>>> there and
>>>>>>>>>>>then eventually start snapping my fingers. This calls attention
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>fact that the other people are not playing the social game. I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>taught that it is not obligatory for women to shake hands. Long
>>>>>>>>>> ago I
>>>>>>>>>>>decided that if women want equal rights, they can do the glad
>>>>>>>>>> handing as
>>>>>>>>>>>well, so I expect them to shake and I do the snapping as well. I
>>>>>>>>>>>sometimes let the elderly off the hook, though oddly, the older
>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>is, the more likely they are to initiate or take my hand. Proper
>>>>>>>>>>>conduct seems to not always be taught to the younger generation.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>we all need to go back to finishing school.
>>>>>>>>>>>Now, if someone could explain the bowing protocol to me so that
>>>>>>>>>> my Asian
>>>>>>>>>>>friends would be surprised and pleased by my manners, I would be
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>greatful.
>>>>>>>>>>>Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>On 5/23/2009 12:40 PM, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gerardo,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also blind as a result of RP and a clinical psychologist.
>>>>>>>>>> My vision
>>>>>>>>>>>> deteriorated at a different pace. I drove a car until I was 27
>>>>>>>>>> and did not
>>>>>>>>>>>> require adaptive technology to read and write until I was about
>>>>>>>>>> 40. Now, at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 61, I have little more than light perception. When younger, I
>>>>>>>>>> was often
>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed when my wife kindly noted that someone was reaching
>>>>>>>>>> out to shake
>>>>>>>>>>>> my hand and I was not noticing. Eventually, I learned to avoid
>>>>>>>>>> this problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> by taking the initiative. On occasion I reach out to discover
>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> person has quickly turned their back or departed, no big deal.
>>>>>>>>>> I have had
>>>>>>>>>>>> no experience with the touching. There are cultural differences
>>>>>>>>>> in such
>>>>>>>>>>>> nonverbal behaviors. For example, cultures vary in terms of
>>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> regarded as personal space. Groups vary in terms of how close
>>>>>>>>>> they stand to
>>>>>>>>>>>> each other when speaking, and also with regard to touching which
>>>>>>>>>> is common
>>>>>>>>>>>> in some cultures and taboo in others. Perhaps your blindness
>>>>>>>>>> has led you to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exceed what is common in your culture or your parents may have
>>>>>>>>>> felt bad for
>>>>>>>>>>>> you when they saw you reach out to touch someone and the person
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> departed. There are also a group of behaviors known as
>>>>>>>>>> blindisms. We all
>>>>>>>>>>>> conduct little rituals of personal hygiene when alone which we
>>>>>>>>>> would not do
>>>>>>>>>>>> in front of others. There is a tendency, particularly if one
>>>>>>>>>> loses their
>>>>>>>>>>>> vision gradually to assume that others see as we do. I am often
>>>>>>>>>> surprised
>>>>>>>>>>>> by what others can see. We assume that if we can't see
>>>>>>>>>> something others can
>>>>>>>>>>>> not either. This can lead us to embarrass ourselves by
>>>>>>>>>> performing these
>>>>>>>>>>>> grooming rituals in public. Recently, I have noticed that when
>>>>>>>>>> I am walking
>>>>>>>>>>>> and thinking about a conversation which I had or will have with
>>>>>>>>>> someone, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am moving my lips as if I were speaking. I am working on
>>>>>>>>>> suppressing this
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior as I am certain that the sighted would see it as
>>>>>>>>>> strange. Behavior
>>>>>>>>>>>> is so ritualized, and blindness can lead us to engage in some
>>>>>>>>>> peculiar ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As professionals, in particular, we don't want to be seen as odd
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> idiosyncratic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Cindy Handel
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:55 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Greetings;Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerardo,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the time, when I would like to shake the hand of a
>>>>>>>>>> sighted person, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just extend my hand and they grasp it and we shake hands.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as touching the arm of people, I've never done this.
>>>>>>>>>> When do you do
>>>>>>>>>>>> this? If you're talking with someone, it shouldn't be
>>>>>>>>>> necessary, since
>>>>>>>>>>>> they're participating in the conversation. I think we've all
>>>>>>>>>> experienced a
>>>>>>>>>>>> time when we're talking to someone and learn that they walked
>>>>>>>>>> away. Now, if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're referring to touching a person's arm to make sure they're
>>>>>>>>>> still there
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a way to insure that you still have their attention, that's
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> different. I have met sighted people who talk with their hands
>>>>>>>>>> and touch my
>>>>>>>>>>>> arm or shoulder, for emphasis. So, that might not be so
>>>>>>>>>> unusual.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Gerardo Corripio"<gera1027 at prodigy.net.mx
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind-Talk"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Greetings;Behaviors in adults blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm Gerardo from Mexico; 31 years old and a Psychologist working
>>>>>>>>>> on my own
>>>>>>>>>>>> in my private practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully I'll be able to learn lots of great things from you
>>>>>>>>>> guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> especially of the NFB way of viewing and living with blindness.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now for my debut question: I've been blind all my life due to
>>>>>>>>>> RP; since I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was a teenager I remember developing a habbit of touching the
>>>>>>>>>> arm of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> people constanly to be sure he/she was still there. I continued
>>>>>>>>>> to do this
>>>>>>>>>>>> into adulthood until my family made the observation that this
>>>>>>>>>> behavior isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen well by the sighted only a few days ago. I'm still shocked
>>>>>>>>>> by this
>>>>>>>>>>>> observation to the point that now how to know if the person is
>>>>>>>>>> still there?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the voice gives feedback but when people talk it feels as
>>>>>>>>>> if they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> there but aren't there. How have you coped with this situation
>>>>>>>>>> in that you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get rid of the habbit before-mentioned? Surely it has
>>>>>>>>>> happened to
>>>>>>>>>>>> some of you?
>>>>>>>>>>>> also when shaking hands with sighted people how to find the hand
>>>>>>>>>> to shake if
>>>>>>>>>>>> the sighted person doesn't take the initiative?
>>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see I've still have lots of tips and tricks to learn
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> blindness, thus my interest in joining the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerardo
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