[Blindtlk] The Cost of Independent Travel
Graves, Diane
dgraves at icrc.IN.gov
Mon Aug 30 12:08:08 UTC 2010
Hi Guys,
I know I seem to be waffling back and forth on this issue here, but Dave does make an excellent point. If sighted people had had their way 100, 75, or even 50 years ago, we would all still be off the streets in seclusion somewhere. None of us would be working in the mainstream; none of us would be parents.
With very rare exceptions, if a blind person did have a job back then, they were teaching in a school for the blind. But our predecessors band together and said "no!", and here we are. We aren't totally excepted as equals yet, but we sure are a lot further than we were back then.
If we don't start somewhere, taking things one step at a time, we can be sure we'll never get there. But if we take those first tentative steps, taking things one day at a time, who knows? We just might. When computers first came on the scene, most of us probably assumed that they were completely out of our reach and always would be. But again, here we are.
Great points Dave.
Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647
"It is service that measures success."
George Washington Carver
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Medina
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Cost of Independent Travel
Very true!
I look forward to someday having a car I can drive!
I'm isolated right now as I live in a rural area. With a car I could
come & go as I pleased & go visit family because I could come home
when I was ready, not when my folks were ready.
I could get myself to concerts, to get groceries etc & have no worries
about cabs being to expensive or paying someone else gas or waiting
for someone to get home from work.
On 8/27/10, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> A number of people here have pointed out problems with developing a
> car that blind persons could drive. It seems to me that the tone of
> some of these messages, if not the words, is that this is something
> we shouldn't do because of this and that.
>
> For sure, there are lots of problems ahead of us. However, one can
> choose to see these as challenges and opportunities, not disabling
> problems. We can always find reasons not to do something. Doing it
> is harder because we must go against conventional wisdom. However if
> we had accepted what sighted people said we could do, or not do, all
> along, we would still be in the dark ages, literally and figuratively.
>
> Dave
>
> At 08:32 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi Ray,
>>
>>I do think you make some good points, and I have thought of these
>>questions myself. I understand the underlying purpose of the
>>project, but there are a lot of problems to be worked out before it
>>is even remotely possible. I do think there are much more productive
>>things that we could be doing with the funds that are being put into
>>this project.
>>
>>I go back and forth on this issue. Mostly though, I wish the
>>organization were putting its money somewhere else.
>>
>>
>
> David Andrews: dandrews at visi.com
> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>
>
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