[Blindtlk] Thought youall might findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K fordisability violations

Tue Aug 31 14:54:28 UTC 2010

correct, when I am traveling by myself I like some assistance if I need it, 
or ask for it.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought youall might 
findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K fordisability violations

> Him
>
> Well put David. Let me clarify that, in my last post I wasn't meaning to 
> imply that Steve thought of himself as a child or an invalid. I was simply 
> making the point that as an adult, I have options and it is my right to 
> exercise them. If you would prefer preboarding for yourself, that is 
> perfectly fine.
>
>
> Diane Graves
> Civil Rights Specialist
> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> 317-232-2647
>
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> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
> Steve, I've seen the same situation with the elderly, families, and people 
> dragging their luggage on to the plain. Let us not assume that because 
> some blind people need assistance, that all do. I am pleased that you take 
> it because you want to. Having been one of those who fought to be able to 
> board with all the other passengers, I would resist the idea that I must 
> accept help, even when it is inconvenient.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:22 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
> I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight 
> crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling around.
> This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into 
> consideration.
> I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to 
> assist me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business 
> flier, then you know time is money!!
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
>
> > With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
> > There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
> >
> > We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
> > busy intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer
> > to have a fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are
> > others who feel competent in this area and would prefer to be left
> > alone to do it themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a
> > sighted person comes up and offers some assistance which is politely
> > refused and the sighted person goes on about their business, , there
> > is no problem. If, however, that sighted person insists, grabs the blind 
> > person's arm, not taking "no"
> > for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
> > tolerated.
> >
> > person
> >
> >
> > Diane Graves
> > Civil Rights Specialist
> > Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> > Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> > 317-232-2647
> >
> > "It is service that measures success."
> > George Washington Carver
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >
> > I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
> > e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related
> > to a guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person
> > force to sit in wheelchairs.
> >
> > It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has,
> > they might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the
> > blind.  Who knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here
> > since we are a non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the 
> > blind.
> >
> >
> > The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > Independent Travel Consultant
> > C10-10646
> >
> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
> > 1-866-580-5574
> > skype: angeldn3
> >
> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
> > CST-1018299-10 Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute
> > Cruise and Travel Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> > interesting-AirTran
> > fined $500K for disability violations
> >
> >
> >> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >> Ray:
> >>
> >> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
> >> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
> >> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
> >> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had on
> >> file.
> >>
> >> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
> >> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or not
> >> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
> >>
> >> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
> >> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
> >> there
> >> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty them 
> >> a
> >> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the call
> >> to
> >> the ADA department.
> >>
> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >>
> >> Maurice
> >>
> >> We know that you have a choice in choosing a Travel Partner and truly
> >> appreciate that you have selected Peachtree Travel.
> >>
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