[Blindtlk] Thought youallmightfind thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K fordisabilityviolations

Bryan Schulz b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
Tue Aug 31 15:15:00 UTC 2010


has something changed? it is first come first sit.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought youallmightfind thisinteresting-AirTranfined 
$500K fordisabilityviolations


> not true I fly southwest all the time.  My preferred airlines out of Long 
> Island, NY.
>
> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you allmightfind 
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disabilityviolations
>
>
>> this doesn't matter on southwest, the aisle is narrow and there are ways 
>> of
>> doing it at the same pace as the others.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all mightfind
>> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>>
>>
>> >I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight
>> > crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling 
>> > around.
>> > This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into
>> > consideration.
>> > I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to
>> > assist
>> > me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business flier,
>> > then
>> > you know time is money!!
>> > Steve
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
>> > thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>> >
>> >
>> >> With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
>> >> There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
>> >>
>> >> We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a 
>> >> busy
>> >> intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer to 
>> >> have a
>> >> fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are others who 
>> >> feel
>> >> competent in this area and would prefer to be left alone to do it
>> >> themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a sighted person comes 
>> >> up
>> >> and offers some assistance which is politely refused and the sighted
>> >> person goes on about their business, , there is no problem. If, 
>> >> however,
>> >> that sighted person insists, grabs the blind person's arm, not taking
>> >> "no"
>> >> for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
>> >> tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> person
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Diane Graves
>> >> Civil Rights Specialist
>> >> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> >> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> >> 317-232-2647
>> >>
>> >> "It is service that measures success."
>> >> George Washington Carver
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>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
>> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >>
>> >> I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
>> >> e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related 
>> >> to
>> >> a
>> >> guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person force 
>> >> to
>> >> sit
>> >> in wheelchairs.
>> >>
>> >> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has, 
>> >> they
>> >> might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the blind. 
>> >> Who
>> >> knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here since we are 
>> >> a
>> >> non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the blind.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >>
>> >> Cheryl Echevarria
>> >> Independent Travel Consultant
>> >> C10-10646
>> >>
>> >> http://Echevarriatravel.com
>> >> 1-866-580-5574
>> >> skype: angeldn3
>> >>
>> >> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>> >> CST-1018299-10
>> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and 
>> >> Travel
>> >> Inc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>> >> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> interesting-AirTran
>> >> fined $500K for disability violations
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> >>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>> On
>> >>> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
>> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >>>
>> >>> Ray:
>> >>>
>> >>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>> >>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA 
>> >>> mandates.
>> >>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or 
>> >>> doing
>> >>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had 
>> >>> on
>> >>> file.
>> >>>
>> >>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
>> >>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or 
>> >>> not
>> >>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>> >>>
>> >>> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
>> >>> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
>> >>> there
>> >>> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty 
>> >>> them
>> >>> a
>> >>> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the 
>> >>> call
>> >>> to
>> >>> the ADA department.
>> >>>
>> >>> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >>>
>> >>> Maurice
>> >>>
>> >>> We know that you have a choice in choosing a Travel Partner and truly
>> >>> appreciate that you have selected Peachtree Travel.
>> >>>
>> >>> Independent Travel Consultant
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