[Blindtlk] Thought you all might find thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Tue Aug 31 15:32:41 UTC 2010

I like that so much. I wish I had choices. I feel like a prisoner sometimes.
I don't know how to change that feeling. I made my husband put our house on
the market and try and move to a neighborhood with more amenities so that I
could walk my kids to do stuff. Our house is taking longer than I thought
for it to sell. We have also recently canceled our cable. And my husband cut
up our credit cards. I feel alone, helpless, trapped.
mari

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <
david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:

> Yes. As Dr. Jernigan pointed out years ago (why am I feeling Old this
> morning?) independence has more than one definition. The bottom line is you
> should have choice in the help you accept.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:57 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
> Well, David, if a blind person needs help getting toa flight or getting on
> a plane, I hope he's got the sense enough to ask for it.  IF not, I hope
> he's got the snese enough to politely refuse it.  IS that your point?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
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>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>
> Steve, I've seen the same situation with the elderly, families, and people
> dragging their luggage on to the plain. Let us not assume that because some
> blind people need assistance, that all do. I am pleased that you take it
> because you want to. Having been one of those who fought to be able to board
> with all the other passengers, I would resist the idea that I must accept
> help, even when it is inconvenient.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:22 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
> I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight
> crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling around.
> This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into consideration.
> I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to
> assist me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business
> flier, then you know time is money!!
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
>
> > With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
> > There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
> >
> > We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
> > busy intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer
> > to have a fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are
> > others who feel competent in this area and would prefer to be left
> > alone to do it themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a
> > sighted person comes up and offers some assistance which is politely
> > refused and the sighted person goes on about their business, , there
> > is no problem. If, however, that sighted person insists, grabs the blind
> person's arm, not taking "no"
> > for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
> > tolerated.
> >
> > person
> >
> >
> > Diane Graves
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >
> > I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
> > e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related
> > to a guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person
> > force to sit in wheelchairs.
> >
> > It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has,
> > they might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the
> > blind.  Who knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here
> > since we are a non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the
> blind.
> >
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >
> >
> >> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >> Ray:
> >>
> >> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
> >> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
> >> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
> >> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had on
> >> file.
> >>
> >> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
> >> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or not
> >> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
> >>
> >> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
> >> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
> >> there
> >> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty them
> a
> >> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the call
> >> to
> >> the ADA department.
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