[Blindtlk] Thought you all might find thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Ray Foret Jr rforetjr at comcast.net
Tue Aug 31 15:48:23 UTC 2010 

Mari,

It sounds to me like you really rather desporately need to check out this site:

www.lbc-ruston.org

Call Pam Allan at:

+1 (800)234-4166

I cannot help but detect that if there's one thing you really need right now, it's greater selfconfidence.  I don't know whether you have many or any blindness skills, but, it sounds to me like you're at the stage where you know that better should be possible for yourself, but, not sure whether:
1.  It is possible for yourself.

2.  Even if it is possible, how to go about getting it.  

PLEASE, call now!!!  You need not feel like you are a prisoner anymore!!!


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

E-Mail:
rforetjr at comcast dot net
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barefootedray

On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Mari Hunziker wrote:

I like that so much. I wish I had choices. I feel like a prisoner sometimes.
I don't know how to change that feeling. I made my husband put our house on
the market and try and move to a neighborhood with more amenities so that I
could walk my kids to do stuff. Our house is taking longer than I thought
for it to sell. We have also recently canceled our cable. And my husband cut
up our credit cards. I feel alone, helpless, trapped.
mari

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <
david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:

> Yes. As Dr. Jernigan pointed out years ago (why am I feeling Old this
> morning?) independence has more than one definition. The bottom line is you
> should have choice in the help you accept.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:57 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> 
> Well, David, if a blind person needs help getting toa flight or getting on
> a plane, I hope he's got the sense enough to ask for it.  IF not, I hope
> he's got the snese enough to politely refuse it.  IS that your point?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
> 
> Steve, I've seen the same situation with the elderly, families, and people
> dragging their luggage on to the plain. Let us not assume that because some
> blind people need assistance, that all do. I am pleased that you take it
> because you want to. Having been one of those who fought to be able to board
> with all the other passengers, I would resist the idea that I must accept
> help, even when it is inconvenient.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:22 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> 
> I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight
> crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling around.
> This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into consideration.
> I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to
> assist me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business
> flier, then you know time is money!!
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> 
> 
>> With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
>> There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
>> 
>> We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
>> busy intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer
>> to have a fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are
>> others who feel competent in this area and would prefer to be left
>> alone to do it themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a
>> sighted person comes up and offers some assistance which is politely
>> refused and the sighted person goes on about their business, , there
>> is no problem. If, however, that sighted person insists, grabs the blind
> person's arm, not taking "no"
>> for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
>> tolerated.
>> 
>> person
>> 
>> 
>> Diane Graves
>> Civil Rights Specialist
>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> 317-232-2647
>> 
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>> George Washington Carver
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> 
>> I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
>> e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related
>> to a guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person
>> force to sit in wheelchairs.
>> 
>> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has,
>> they might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the
>> blind.  Who knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here
>> since we are a non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the
> blind.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> 
>> 
>>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>>> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>>> 
>>> Ray:
>>> 
>>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
>>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
>>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had on
>>> file.
>>> 
>>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
>>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or not
>>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>>> 
>>> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
>>> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
>>> there
>>> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty them
> a
>>> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the call
>>> to
>>> the ADA department.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Maurice
>>> 
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