[Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like

Sat Feb 27 22:00:42 UTC 2010

I do touch faces, but never ever without asking permission first.

On 2/27/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> You ever heard of socialization skills?  This is what is needed in this
> case.
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> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like
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>>I was able to see a very little bit when I was a child.  But, I was never
>> able to see enough to identify faces.  So, that really isn't important to
>> me.  I agree with Connie and others; you can tell a lot more about a
>> person
>> from their voice and the way they treat you than by their appearance.  You
>> can ask someone what they look like, and you may learn that she's pretty
>> or
>> what color hair and eyes she has.  But, at least for me, the way their
>> face
>> looks doesn't matter.
>>
>> I once had a guy insist that I feel his face.  I didn't want to and
>> resisted.  But, he was quite persistent and I did.  It didn't really give
>> me
>> any information than I already knew...he had two eyes, a nose, mouth and
>> other facial features.  But, I didn't know any more about what he looked
>> like after than I did before touching his face.  So, it did nothing for
>> me.
>>
>> The other day, a friend asked me what I thought someone looked like.  I
>> told
>> her that I really didn't know.  I just don't think about people's
>> appearance; at least not in detail.
>>
>> Cindy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like
>>
>>
>> I have been blind all of my life and learned at a very early age that
>> you should always turn and look at the person you are speaking to.  I
>> have gotten to the point that if someone speaks to me and doesn't
>> look at me directly, it is hard to tell he/she is speaking to,
>> especially in a large group of people.  As for touching faces, I
>> scream in horror at the mere thought of it.  As a woman, I would not
>> like it done to me because it would mess up my makeup and just think
>> of the hygieneic aspects.  I also hate the stereotype attached to the
>> face touching from some very stupid movies.  Asforfinding out what a
>> person physically looks like, sometimes it can be done if you are
>> standing next to them or walking beside them.  You can tell if they
>> are tall or short, fat or thin.  Hair is a little difficult, but
>> occasionally if a person has very long hair, as I do, occasionally it
>> can blow up against you, or if you are in a store and the person
>> bends over to reach something on a low shelf, if the hair is long
>> enough, it may also brush your hand.  I notice this all the time in
>> stores because my husband has long hair also.  You can hear a smile
>> in a voice and itis easy to tell when laughter and a smile is
>> genuine.  If a person has a nice voice and speaks to you in a
>> pleasant manner, there is a good chance they don't look like
>> something out of a horror film, although voices can also be
>> deceiving.  Good luck.  I doubt if I have been of much help, but I tried.
>>
>> Connie Canode
>> At 07:50 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:
>>>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
>>>
>>>     I'm very sure everyone in this mailing list is blind. Maybe
>>> some of you are not. And well, I have a curiosity, or a question,
>>> that maybe you can answer for me and if it is not that intimidating:
>>>     As you know, sighted people tend to look at each other's face,
>>> or perhaps most of the body movements and the hands, while they're
>>> talking to each other. For example, when somebody is talking and
>>> facing another person, that person faces that other person, and he
>>> or she can look at the person's face. In addition, this does not
>>> happen when they are talking only; the person can just look at that
>>> other person, E.G. a boy says "hello" to a girl perhaps, and he
>>> looks at her because she is pretty (or she perhaps isn't) and he
>>> looks at her smile and he knows what she looks like. He can maybe
>>> remember her just through all those details of her. Furthermore,
>>> there are more case-scenarios out there that are very similar to this
>>> one.
>>>     While sighted people do this, as far as blind people are
>>> concerned, is there any way a blind person can do the same things
>>> just like the sighted? Can a blind person tell how someone looks
>>> like by some technique or some information? If I want to know how
>>> someone looks like, what can I do? Sometimes I think that probably
>>> by touching faces I can get a general detail of what he/she is
>>> like, but some people may see this as an offensive thing. I have
>>> just a little bit of vision (mostly out of the corner of my right
>>> eye), but I cannot see well enough to see these things. I can only
>>> see very close objects or people. But anyways, if, for example, I
>>> meet a nice girl and she says hello to me, and she carries out a
>>> conversation with me. How can I get the physical description of
>>> her? How do I know if she is just smiling without laughing? How do
>>> I know what her hair looks like? maybe she has a pointy nose, a
>>> big/small mouth, and probably really all straight and white teeth!
>>> How can I know these things? I could perhaps ask her, "What do you
>>> look like?" but I've had bad experiences asking that question,
>>> although some people are kind and they tell me. Again, I don't see
>>> any bad thing by touching people's faces, however, I'm not sure if
>>> I should totally do it because of an offense or just being disrespectful.
>>>     I am asking this question just for curiosity, and I'd like to
>>> see what you think about this. Any feedback and comments about this
>>> topic are welcome. I'd like to find out what other blind people
>>> have done to accomplish well this situation.
>>>
>>>Thank you and have a very lucky day!
>>>
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