[Blindtlk] inferiority complex???

Fri Jun 4 18:50:50 UTC 2010

Thanks.  Nothing like a good cup of coffee from a Kurig!!!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???


> Steve, I get my coffee auto delivered from Amazon.  It is amazingly
> inexpensive and you can set it up for every month, 2 months or
> whatever you like.  Always good to save a few bucks.  They also have
> Green Mountain.
>
> Connie Canode
> At 10:59 AM 6/4/2010, you wrote:
>>I love my kurig.  I buy the coffee from Green Mountain coffee.
>>
>>Steve
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Weingartner, Paul" 
>><PWeingartner at ag.org>
>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:48 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
>>
>>
>>>Kurig sells a basket capsule for loading your own coffee.  We grind our
>>>own beans of our preferred brand and flavors and rarely use the Kurig
>>>k-cups.
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>"making the cross accessible"
>>>Paul Weingartner
>>>National Representative for the Blind
>>>Director of
>>>Center for the Blind of the Assemblies of God
>>>P 417.831.1964   F 417.862.5120
>>>www.blind.ag.org
>>>www.blindonline.ag.org
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>On Behalf Of Constance Canode
>>>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:41 AM
>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
>>>
>>>Hi Marty,
>>>
>>>Congratulations on your business.  I have one question for you.  I
>>>have a Kurig brewer that takes the K-cups.  Is there any chance you
>>>might be able to use those?  If not, I still may order coffee anyway,
>>>as I do have a small French press that I use when I really want
>>>something extra special.  However, those K-cups are wonderful.  As a
>>>true coffee addict, having a shot of caffeine in less than 30 seconds
>>>is a treat.  I wish you lots of good luck.
>>>
>>>Connie Canode
>>>At 07:58 AM 6/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Hi Marty!
>>>>
>>>>That's great you are exhibiting at the convention. I like seeing people
>>>>whether blind or sighted use their ingenuity and make  the best of
>>>their
>>>>situations.
>>>>
>>>>Where is your company located? Also, will you have your coffees for
>>>sale in
>>>>Dallas??
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Liz Campbell
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Marty James" <blindamp at q.com>
>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:34 AM
>>>>Subject: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I am not sure what the big deal is, I lost my leg and my eyes at the
>>>same
>>>> >time and said how can I use this to my advantage...
>>>> > I was a graphic designer when I went blind so there is a little
>>>adjusting
>>>> > but I came up with a plan. I am now the owner of a company called
>>>The
>>>> > Blind Bean and I sell some of the best coffee beans in the country
>>>from
>>>> > all over the world. In fact, I am exhibiting at the NFB Convention
>>>this
>>>> > year, I hope you come by and see me!!
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:58 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
>>>> > complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 6/2/10, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> Peter:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> It strikes me that you're having a whale of a good time thinking
>>>of
>>>> >>> things a
>>>> >>> blind person *cannot* do. Tell me: do you really enjoy sitting on
>>>your
>>>> >>> posterior all day crying: "Woe is me?" Snap out of it. Were you to
>>>come
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> the NFB convention in Dallas, I bet I could introduce you to two
>>>or
>>>> >>> three
>>>> >>> farmers (which is two or three more farmers who are blind than
>>>sighted
>>>> >>> ones
>>>> >>> I know) and one of the members of the Board of Directors was a
>>>derry
>>>> >>> farmer
>>>> >>> for some time and may still do a bit of it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Stop thinking of what blind folks *can't* do and start thinking:
>>>"What
>>>> >>> am
>>>> >>> *I* going to do with my life? What am I interested in? How much
>>>time,
>>>> >>> effort
>>>> >>> and energy am I willing to put into that interest?"
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Grab the world by the short hairs and tell it who's boss!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mike
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:25 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
>>>> >>> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Julie:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>   How many blind people are farmers? I bet not even a percent and
>>>I
>>>> >>>> bet they have firm rootxs from generation to generation within
>>>their
>>>> >>>> church. So, the family of massive wealth resources also helps as
>>>well.
>>>> >>>> They grow their own food and can be able. How well can they see?
>>>Do
>>>> >>>> they have a spouse or other relative nearby? I know of this cause
>>>I
>>>> >>>> know someone in a simular situation with his own acrage and has
>>>his
>>>> >>>> sister to help out tremendously. Not all of us have relatives
>>>alive
>>>> >>>> anymore or if so aren't functionally able to do so. I am just
>>>saying.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 6/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> What happens to the blind people who want to be farmers?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Just sayin' public transportation isn't the miracle cure for
>>>> >>>>> everything.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Julie
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>> >>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:06 PM
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>> >>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> You need to take responsibility and move to areas where there
>>>is
>>>> >>>>>> adequate
>>>> >>>>>> public transportation!
>>>> >>>>>> Steve
>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:00 PM
>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>> >>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> If personal responsability was a mantra strong enough how come
>>>it is
>>>> >>>>>>> that blind people in particilar are not gainfully employed?
>>>Some
>>>> >>>>>>> areas
>>>> >>>>>>> don't facilitate transportation and I have been around
>>>virtually all
>>>> >>>>>>> types of blind people. There is a good number that can't get
>>>hired
>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> private companies in particilar go against it  like Goergia
>>>Pacific
>>>> >>>>>>> or
>>>> >>>>>>> have halfway commitments like car plants. Then, government
>>>layoffs
>>>> >>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>> well.
>>>> >>>>>>>    Another thing is that many legallly blind people post about
>>>an
>>>> >>>>>>> almost completely blind prospective. Perhaps some of this can
>>>be
>>>> >>>>>>> done.
>>>> >>>>>>> However, I've ran across plenty of blind people in my opinion
>>>that
>>>> >>>>>>> have people pick up after them. I mean that it's not as
>>>independent
>>>> >>>>>>> cause they don't want to be or people pity them too much.
>>>There are
>>>> >>>>>>> limitations even with the best accessability and acknowledging
>>>them
>>>> >>>>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>> a good realistic approach. Then, my interests and dislikes and
>>>I've
>>>> >>>>>>> done that. I've researched these areas and what it boils down
>>>to is
>>>> >>>>>>> insecurity with being blind.
>>>> >>>>>>>    About my local NFB branch. Since Mike Jones has been away
>>>for a
>>>> >>>>>>> unknown set time to Hawaii to the last time I've heard that
>>>Auburn's
>>>> >>>>>>> NFB is nothing? It's mainly in bigger cities. How do you meet
>>>blind
>>>> >>>>>>> people then? The Program for Students with Disabilities isn't
>>>a
>>>> >>>>>>> social
>>>> >>>>>>> networking site unfortunately. It is okay via e-mail and I
>>>have ran
>>>> >>>>>>> into three blind people here just one has left and that is
>>>about it.
>>>> >>>>>>>    What would you do about choosing to change your major into
>>>> >>>>>>> something with more creativity or teaching that you won't be
>>>> >>>>>>> complained about doing cause they have already paid so much?
>>>> >>>>>>> Initially
>>>> >>>>>>> when I started college I wanted to be a lawyer but I realize
>>>they is
>>>> >>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>> element of corruption and huge sin risks by word scrambling to
>>>suit
>>>> >>>>>>> your own agenda that I don't like at all. So, the psychology
>>>field,
>>>> >>>>>>> history and political science all weren't what I wanted. There
>>>is
>>>> >>>>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>> initative to get math and science students at Auburn to do
>>>that
>>>> >>>>>>> stuff.
>>>> >>>>>>>    I have to take calculus 1 and or calculus 2 but I don't
>>>know
>>>> >>>>>>> neimith code. How logn do you think it could take someone with
>>>> >>>>>>> virtually no experience to learn the basics for that course? I
>>>might
>>>> >>>>>>> just get a tutor though and do it that way. If there is
>>>computer
>>>> >>>>>>> scientists on the list just e-mail me. I don't beleieve that
>>>blind
>>>> >>>>>>> people have to do all of this calculus information like some
>>>have
>>>> >>>>>>> fabricated though. Arrogance is hard to deal with supposedly
>>>> >>>>>>> successful blind people. I owuld like to own my own company!
>>>> >>>>>>> note: thanks to all of you
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>>>wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter, I started to reply several times. Gary and Steve both
>>>make
>>>> >>>>>>>> good
>>>> >>>>>>>> points. They said the things I wanted to say. Let me add that
>>>I
>>>> >>>>>>>> know
>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>> wouldn't have had the type of encouragement I have had were
>>>it not
>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>>>> being
>>>> >>>>>>>> blind. I have had the boone of meeting more successful people
>>>than
>>>> >>>>>>>> most,
>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>> finding that they are willing to share their secrets (mostly
>>>hard
>>>> >>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>> techniques that make sense once you learn them) with me. They
>>>then
>>>> >>>>>>>> expected
>>>> >>>>>>>> me to pass them on to others. I have learned to try my best.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> You sound like a fellow who has a number of things going on
>>>at the
>>>> >>>>>>>> same
>>>> >>>>>>>> time. Please don't try to solve them all at once. If you can
>>>> >>>>>>>> prioritize
>>>> >>>>>>>> your
>>>> >>>>>>>> needs (it's hard, but it is the only way to get them all
>>>down) and
>>>> >>>>>>>> deal
>>>> >>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>> them one at a time, you can see some progress. I think the
>>>hardest
>>>> >>>>>>>> thing
>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>>>> me to learn, and to explain is that it is acceptable to fail.
>>>It
>>>> >>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>> >>>>>>>> mean that you are less of a person. Everyone fails at
>>>something. I
>>>> >>>>>>>> keep
>>>> >>>>>>>> trying new things, and I do some of them well, and some of
>>>them
>>>> >>>>>>>> badly.
>>>> >>>>>>>> It's
>>>> >>>>>>>> interesting to see which I learn the most from.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Find some blind people who you like in your area. Find some
>>>who
>>>> >>>>>>>> will
>>>> >>>>>>>> teach
>>>> >>>>>>>> you the things that they do. None of us would have planed to
>>>be
>>>> >>>>>>>> blind,
>>>> >>>>>>>> had
>>>> >>>>>>>> we a choice. Since we didn't, some of us are happy,
>>>successful, and
>>>> >>>>>>>> satisfied with life anyway. As I write, I remember a book I
>>>> >>>>>>>> recently
>>>> >>>>>>>> read
>>>> >>>>>>>> by
>>>> >>>>>>>> a fellow named Mike May. Mike now runs Sendero Group, doing
>>>GPS
>>>> >>>>>>>> systems.
>>>> >>>>>>>> He's a nice guy, and I met him long before he was successful.
>>>The
>>>> >>>>>>>> book
>>>> >>>>>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>>> called Crashing Through. I found it interesting in that
>>>Michael is
>>>> >>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>> guy
>>>> >>>>>>>> who
>>>> >>>>>>>> just never learned to fail. He failed until he found ways to
>>>> >>>>>>>> succeed.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't know if this helps or not. Please let us know how
>>>you're
>>>> >>>>>>>> doing.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >>>>>>>> On
>>>> >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dewey Bradley
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:40 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>> >>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Garry makes some very good points indeed.
>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>>>> >>>>>>>> To: "'Gary Wunder'" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk
>>>Mailing
>>>> >>>>>>>> List'"
>>>> >>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:04 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>> >>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Peter,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary makes some very good points here as well. It would
>>>simply be
>>>> >>>>>>>>> untrue for me to tell you that there are no advantages to
>>>being
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sighted, or disadvantages to being blind. Just as there are
>>>> >>>>>>>>> advantages
>>>> >>>>>>>>> to having money, v. not  having as much. If Bill Gates
>>>decides
>>>> >>>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> he
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wants to order a pizza on a Friday night for dinner, he
>>>doesn't
>>>> >>>>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>>>> to stop and think about whether or not he can afford it the
>>>way
>>>> >>>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>>> do.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> The point is though, that there are ways around most of
>>>these
>>>> >>>>>>>>> things.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> We find those ways, most of them are not insurmountable,
>>>and we
>>>> >>>>>>>>> lead
>>>> >>>>>>>>> productive and full lives.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Diane Graves
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Civil Rights Specialist
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 317-232-2647
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> "It is service that measures success."
>>>> >>>>>>>>> George Washington Carver
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>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:25 PM
>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disability
>>>vs
>>>> >>>>>>>>> nondisabledsociety
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Peter, you have asked many questions and I am certain in one
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>>> can't begin to response to them all. Even this assumes I
>>>know all
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> answers, which I most certainly do not.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I throw out these ideas and observations with the suggestion
>>>that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>>>>> take what you like and leave the rest. It does no good to
>>>compare
>>>> >>>>>>>>> yourself with what you might have been. In the first place,
>>>you
>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't
>>>> >>>>>>>>> know what you might have been. I might be angry because my
>>>Dad was
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> owner of a successful construction business which I could
>>>have run
>>>> >>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> might be far better off financially than I am now. Without
>>>sight,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>>> can't run the heavy equipment so perhaps I should be angry.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because I
>>>> >>>>>>>>> am blind, I traveled a different road, went to college, got
>>>a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> degree,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> and work as a computer programmer. That college experience
>>>> >>>>>>>>> introduced
>>>> >>>>>>>>> me to good books, to different thoughts about the world, and
>>>to a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> tolerance of other people I'd never have gotten had I stayed
>>>at
>>>> >>>>>>>>> home.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which life is the better? Unfortunately this is a question
>>>without
>>>> >>>>>>>>> an
>>>> >>>>>>>>> answer. I have to make of my life what is possible, without
>>>> >>>>>>>>> spending
>>>> >>>>>>>>> too much time grieving about some alternative future.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> In your note you acknowledge a lot of problems.
>>>Acknowledging one
>>>> >>>>>>>>> has
>>>> >>>>>>>>> a problem is often the first step on the road to solving it,
>>>but
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sometimes that acknowledgement is simply a way of stating
>>>the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> problem
>>>> >>>>>>>>> and the more we state it, the more we come to like the way
>>>we say
>>>> >>>>>>>>> it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> We grow accustomed to the burden of that problem, and rather
>>>than
>>>> >>>>>>>>> using our admission to solve it, we carry it like a badge of
>>>> >>>>>>>>> honor.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> In my own work, I can tell you that blineness makes many
>>>things
>>>> >>>>>>>>> hard
>>>> >>>>>>>>> which others find easy. They see computer screens and what
>>>is
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>> >>>>>>>>> from them is obvious. I hear computer screens and have to
>>>often
>>>> >>>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>>> pretty hard to figure out what is wanted and where I am on
>>>the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can make a real case for how disadvantaged this makes me,
>>>but
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> more important thing is that I figure it out and be
>>>productive
>>>> >>>>>>>>> enough
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can bring home a pay check.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> You talk about the country in which you were born. There may
>>>be
>>>> >>>>>>>>> better
>>>> >>>>>>>>> countries in which to be blind, but I am certain the
>>>majority are
>>>> >>>>>>>>> worse.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> In
>>>> >>>>>>>>> your country you have the opportunity to make a contract
>>>with our
>>>> >>>>>>>>> people.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> That contract says that we, all of us, will help you with
>>>training
>>>> >>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> equipment if, in return, you will try your hardest to take
>>>that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> equipment and training and put it to a productive use -
>>>preferably
>>>> >>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> use which will pay you. You will then pay taxes, buy a home,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> support
>>>> >>>>>>>>> your local businesses, not to mention Wal-Mart, and everyone
>>>wins.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winning isn't easy, but it is far easier than carrying
>>>around the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> anger for what you might have been if only you had tried.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take your anger and, if you can, turn it into resolve. Look
>>>at
>>>> >>>>>>>>> your
>>>> >>>>>>>>> situation, acknowledge there are disadvantages, and at the
>>>same
>>>> >>>>>>>>> time
>>>> >>>>>>>>> determine how you can benefit from where you find yourself.
>>>If you
>>>> >>>>>>>>> constantly live with the dream of driving the car you once
>>>had,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you'll
>>>> >>>>>>>>> be disappointed. If you live with the dream of the dcar
>>>which may
>>>> >>>>>>>>> come
>>>> >>>>>>>>> to be if we who are blind work together, then your sadness
>>>may
>>>> >>>>>>>>> just
>>>> >>>>>>>>> become a tool for hope.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wish you all the luck in the world, and where luck stops
>>>and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> personal responsibility begins, I wish you the courage to
>>>take it
>>>> >>>>>>>>> on.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
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>>>> >> Peter
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>>>> >> If you read all of my posts you would understand that I am not
>>>making
>>>> >> up excuses. I have as an attestament to that being an individual
>>>not
>>>> >> as a group. I want to brainstorm with people Mike. Do you
>>>understand?
>>>> >> What are you guys's reading comprehension? I'm wondering cause I've
>>>> >> not stayed on the excuse bit just merely introduced my unique
>>>problems
>>>> >> to you. However. on here people are  mis informed on what I said.
>>>> >>    I know that blind people have done programming and such. I want
>>>to
>>>> >> know how they began that is all. I want updated practices like I
>>>have
>>>> >> mentioned getting in contact with AFB Mentors on this same post. I
>>>> >> have posted a second thread as well. Dude if you can't understand
>>>that
>>>> >> I can't see how any of you got degrees seriously. I asked specific
>>>> >> questions posted by blind professions with no answers on specifics
>>>to
>>>> >> get started and understanding realistic approaches to complicated
>>>> >> problems. Why can't you guys understand this?
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