[Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like

Mon Mar 1 00:20:06 UTC 2010

I touch faces - my lips with my wife's lips!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like

>I do touch faces, but never ever without asking permission first.
>
> On 2/27/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>
>> You ever heard of socialization skills?  This is what is needed in this
>> case.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like
>>
>>
>>>I was able to see a very little bit when I was a child.  But, I was never
>>> able to see enough to identify faces.  So, that really isn't important 
>>> to
>>> me.  I agree with Connie and others; you can tell a lot more about a
>>> person
>>> from their voice and the way they treat you than by their appearance. 
>>> You
>>> can ask someone what they look like, and you may learn that she's pretty
>>> or
>>> what color hair and eyes she has.  But, at least for me, the way their
>>> face
>>> looks doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> I once had a guy insist that I feel his face.  I didn't want to and
>>> resisted.  But, he was quite persistent and I did.  It didn't really 
>>> give
>>> me
>>> any information than I already knew...he had two eyes, a nose, mouth and
>>> other facial features.  But, I didn't know any more about what he looked
>>> like after than I did before touching his face.  So, it did nothing for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> The other day, a friend asked me what I thought someone looked like.  I
>>> told
>>> her that I really didn't know.  I just don't think about people's
>>> appearance; at least not in detail.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions concerning how people look like
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been blind all of my life and learned at a very early age that
>>> you should always turn and look at the person you are speaking to.  I
>>> have gotten to the point that if someone speaks to me and doesn't
>>> look at me directly, it is hard to tell he/she is speaking to,
>>> especially in a large group of people.  As for touching faces, I
>>> scream in horror at the mere thought of it.  As a woman, I would not
>>> like it done to me because it would mess up my makeup and just think
>>> of the hygieneic aspects.  I also hate the stereotype attached to the
>>> face touching from some very stupid movies.  Asforfinding out what a
>>> person physically looks like, sometimes it can be done if you are
>>> standing next to them or walking beside them.  You can tell if they
>>> are tall or short, fat or thin.  Hair is a little difficult, but
>>> occasionally if a person has very long hair, as I do, occasionally it
>>> can blow up against you, or if you are in a store and the person
>>> bends over to reach something on a low shelf, if the hair is long
>>> enough, it may also brush your hand.  I notice this all the time in
>>> stores because my husband has long hair also.  You can hear a smile
>>> in a voice and itis easy to tell when laughter and a smile is
>>> genuine.  If a person has a nice voice and speaks to you in a
>>> pleasant manner, there is a good chance they don't look like
>>> something out of a horror film, although voices can also be
>>> deceiving.  Good luck.  I doubt if I have been of much help, but I 
>>> tried.
>>>
>>> Connie Canode
>>> At 07:50 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:
>>>>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
>>>>
>>>>     I'm very sure everyone in this mailing list is blind. Maybe
>>>> some of you are not. And well, I have a curiosity, or a question,
>>>> that maybe you can answer for me and if it is not that intimidating:
>>>>     As you know, sighted people tend to look at each other's face,
>>>> or perhaps most of the body movements and the hands, while they're
>>>> talking to each other. For example, when somebody is talking and
>>>> facing another person, that person faces that other person, and he
>>>> or she can look at the person's face. In addition, this does not
>>>> happen when they are talking only; the person can just look at that
>>>> other person, E.G. a boy says "hello" to a girl perhaps, and he
>>>> looks at her because she is pretty (or she perhaps isn't) and he
>>>> looks at her smile and he knows what she looks like. He can maybe
>>>> remember her just through all those details of her. Furthermore,
>>>> there are more case-scenarios out there that are very similar to this
>>>> one.
>>>>     While sighted people do this, as far as blind people are
>>>> concerned, is there any way a blind person can do the same things
>>>> just like the sighted? Can a blind person tell how someone looks
>>>> like by some technique or some information? If I want to know how
>>>> someone looks like, what can I do? Sometimes I think that probably
>>>> by touching faces I can get a general detail of what he/she is
>>>> like, but some people may see this as an offensive thing. I have
>>>> just a little bit of vision (mostly out of the corner of my right
>>>> eye), but I cannot see well enough to see these things. I can only
>>>> see very close objects or people. But anyways, if, for example, I
>>>> meet a nice girl and she says hello to me, and she carries out a
>>>> conversation with me. How can I get the physical description of
>>>> her? How do I know if she is just smiling without laughing? How do
>>>> I know what her hair looks like? maybe she has a pointy nose, a
>>>> big/small mouth, and probably really all straight and white teeth!
>>>> How can I know these things? I could perhaps ask her, "What do you
>>>> look like?" but I've had bad experiences asking that question,
>>>> although some people are kind and they tell me. Again, I don't see
>>>> any bad thing by touching people's faces, however, I'm not sure if
>>>> I should totally do it because of an offense or just being 
>>>> disrespectful.
>>>>     I am asking this question just for curiosity, and I'd like to
>>>> see what you think about this. Any feedback and comments about this
>>>> topic are welcome. I'd like to find out what other blind people
>>>> have done to accomplish well this situation.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you and have a very lucky day!
>>>>
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