[Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

Sun Oct 10 00:51:36 UTC 2010

the reality of 70% unemployed is that money saved versus extra time spent is 
acceptable.
lets see you send Kerri significant cab bucks and see if your opinion 
changes.

Bryan Schulz

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From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

> Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time is money!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
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>> if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost about $25
>> each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw away the
>> extra
>> money?
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
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>>> Get a cab!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All:
>>>>
>>>> I have some more questions about grocery shopping and transportation.
>>>> Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all my
>>>> questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.
>>>>
>>>> In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
>>>> Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights of
>>>> steps. What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the steps?
>>>> Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of the
>>>> bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much as I
>>>> can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way to
>>>> carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts them
>>>> in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on your
>>>> shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this as easy
>>>> as possible.
>>>>
>>>> How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you just
>>>> get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as little as
>>>> possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you are at the
>>>> store and get lots of stuff?
>>>>
>>>> My next questions are about transportation. I live in a college town.
>>>> I guess it's your typical college town. It's big enough to be
>>>> considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, four or
>>>> more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two movie
>>>> theaters. It isn't a major city though.
>>>>
>>>> We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it. I've
>>>> just been expected to take cabs everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> One of the problems though is that the town is not really a walking
>>>> town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many. When
>>>> things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left out.
>>>>
>>>> There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB chapter.
>>>> So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
>>>> students drive. From what I've read on their website, the bus covers
>>>> many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's downtown
>>>> where the students are. I don't live downtown though. Because of this,
>>>> I find myself having to take cabs almost everywhere. Cabs here are
>>>> about $5-6 each way. Is this normal for a college town? Is this
>>>> expensive for a cab?
>>>>
>>>> Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available or take
>>>> cabs?
>>>>
>>>> Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
>>>> wherever?
>>>>
>>>> Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
>>>> asking the right questions?
>>>>
>>>>>From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the bus
>>>> again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to take
>>>> two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two hours. Is
>>>> this normal for a large town/small city?
>>>>
>>>> The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh. There is a bus that goes
>>>> there twice. In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track train you
>>>> have to somehow get to Pittsburgh. Is the bus going twice daily
>>>> reasonable?
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do you
>>>> find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends, and
>>>> taking the bus?
>>>>
>>>> What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking cabs
>>>> all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make sure
>>>> I'm not getting screwed so to speak. I don't mind taking cabs, but
>>>> sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend the
>>>> money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been told
>>>> owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when the cost
>>>> of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added up but
>>>> again these have just been from sighted people who don't take cabs. It
>>>> seems like most other blind people I know don't take cabs unless they
>>>> absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all the time. In one
>>>> sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead, don't worry about it,
>>>> owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then on the other hand so many
>>>> blind people don't seem to like doing it. I know each town is
>>>> different...but if I want to go somewhere and it's after 6 and the bus
>>>> doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my only options? I've never gone
>>>> completely broke or run out of money by taking cabs but again...I feel
>>>> as if I'm getting mixed messages and I want to make sure I'm doing the
>>>> right/best thing. From where I live you can't walk anywhere as there
>>>> are several things across the street but it's not actually a street
>>>> but a major six-lane highway...so walking is out. I'm not married and
>>>> live alone. Do those of you who live in towns like this find
>>>> yourselves having to also take cabs more frequently than other blind
>>>> people? I know my questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd ask
>>>> them all in one post.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>
>>>> Kerri
>>>>
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