[Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

Danielle Montour dannivoiceangel333 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 11 20:09:18 UTC 2010


O hey thanks.  I didn't know that.  I'll remember that.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com
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Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:43:04 -0600
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questions

there is a less expensive version of  this very expensive machine 
sold by
Black n Deckdr you can get at Wall Mart or Target for around 
twenty dollars
and you can use your regular coffee you buy at the store, 
Jeanette
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From: "Danielle Montour" <dannivoiceangel333 at gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:24 AM
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questions


 Hi,
 Here's a good idea.  If you only want one cup of coffee, hot 
chocolate, or
 tea at a time, I'd get the Keurig machine.  There are KCups that 
go with
 it, and all the machine needs is water in the side compartment 
and an
 outlet.  You'd just fill up the side compartment, which lasts 
for over
 five cups.  All you have to do is lift up the top part of the 
machine, put
 in the KCup, then close it.  It's easy to use and
 accessible.

 HTH

 Danielle
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Jane <juanitatighan at gmail.com
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:58:23 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

  I used to love using coffee makers, but I had trouble keeping 
bugs
 away.  Now I buy coffee beans and have a grinder and a French 
Press and
 an electric kettle.  I measure out three scoops of coffee beans 
into the
 grinder, plug it in, hold the button down for a twelve-fourteen 
count,
 unplug, pour into the press and wait while the water boils.  
After that,
 pour in the water, let sit for five minutes with the top o    n 
and the
 plunger up, then push it down and give it a minute or two.  Then 
pour.
 Takes some time, because of the waiting, but still worth it.  
Now, all I
 need is to learn how to make the cold coffee and chocolate 
drinks I like
 and I'll be content.

 For all that making coffee that way takes time, it's overall 
less
 expensive, because you only have to go to the store once to get 
a large
 can of coffee beans and freeze them.  (They say freezing 
preserves the
 whatever it is that makes the coffee good, and leaving it out 
doesn't.)

 Jane








 On 10/11/2010 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
 Good morning everyone,

      One idea is being over-looked in this discussion.  Why not 
do some of
 your grocery shopping online? If you like Starbuck's Coffee why 
not order
 it
 via their Web site and learn to make it yourself.  You could 
take that cab
 fare you're paying and pay the shipping to order items in bulk.  
Since we
 no
 longer have a large grocery store within walking distance we're 
examining
 our shopping habits to decide which items we can order online 
and which
 items require a trip to the store to help save time and money.

 Peter Donahue

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ron Poire"<rpoire at comcast.net
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 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 It seems rather a waste of money for a $3 late.
 Ron
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 Hi Cindy and All:

 I was thinking more along the lines of Starbucks...I used to 
never
 drink coffee but last week I took the plunge and tried a pumpkin 
spice
 latte...mmmmm...now I'm addicted...I really want to get another 
one
 soon but don't really have anyone to take me and I have no idea
 whether the bus goes to Starbucks...I doubt it...so the only 
thing I
 could think to do was to take a cab, have them drive me through
 Starbucks, I get the pumpkin spice coffee, then they takeme 
home...and
 of course I pay the fare...has anyone ever done this?

 Does Starbucks sell food or just coffee?

 Mmmmmm...pumpkin spice coffee...mmm lol...if you haven't tried 
it yet
 you should lol

 Kerri!

 On 10/9/10, Cindy Handel<cindy425 at verizon.net>  wrote:
 Kerri,

 I'm sure, as long as you're willing to pay the fare, a cab would 
take you
 through a drive-through for food.

 Cindy

 --------------------------------------------------
 From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:15 PM
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

 Hi:

 Well, unfortunately it turns out we don't have paratransit or 
dial a
 ride service here so that's out for me even if I wanted it.

 I'm fine with money lol...I just don't want to overspend on
 transportation while everyone else gets to use buses, public
 transportation, or paratransit...that's all! I asked these 
questions
 because I want to make sure I'm not having to over-spend or 
spend tons
 more than other people who live in small towns.

 I do have another question though I just thought of.  Is it 
possible to
 take a cab, go through a drive-through, then go back home and of
 course pay the fare? What do you do when you want something real
 quick...like something from say McDonalds or Sonic or Starbucks? 
A
 sighted person just gets into their car, goes, then goes right 
back
 home...as long as the fare is paid is it possible to do this 
with a
 cab?

 Also...just out of pure boredom and curiosity I looked up the 
cost of
 owning a car...obviously it varies depending on the type of car 
and
 how much gas/insurance costs but from what I found it said a car 
can
 cost anywhere from $8,000 a year to $15,000 a year.  It also 
said
 monthly it costs about $612...so it seems to me we get off cheap 
in
 terms of transportation.  The site also said that according to 
the
 Department of Labor survey and statistics vehicles are the 
second
 biggest expense for most households...I forget what the first 
was...so
 it seems like to me we get off cheap when it comes to
 transportation...even if you have to pay $5 a cab to get 
anywhere like
 I do.

 Kerri

 On 10/9/10, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
 the reality of 70% unemployed is that money saved versus extra 
time
 spent

 is
 acceptable.
 lets see you send Kerri significant cab bucks and see if your 
opinion
 changes.


 Bryan Schulz

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Steve P.  Deeley"<stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
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 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time 
is
 money!
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Bryan Schulz"<b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
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 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost 
about
 $25
 each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw 
away the
 extra
 money?

 Bryan Schulz

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Steve P.  Deeley"<stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
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 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation
 questions


 Get a cab!
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing 
List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
 Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 Hi All:

 I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
 transportation.
 Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all 
my
 questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.

 I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.

 In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
 Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four 
flights
 of
 steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
 steps?
 Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of 
the
 bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much 
as
 I
 can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way 
to
 carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts
 them
 in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on your
 shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this 
as
 easy
 as possible.

 How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do 
you
 just
 get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as little 
as
 possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you are at
 the
 store and get lots of stuff?

 My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
 town.
 I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
 considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, 
four
 or
 more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two 
movie
 theaters.  It isn't a major city though.

 We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use 
it.
 I've
 just been expected to take cabs everywhere.

 One of the problems though is that the town is not really a 
walking
 town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
 When
 things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left
 out.

 There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB 
chapter.
 So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
 students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
 covers
 many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's 
downtown
 where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.  Because 
of
 this,
 I find myself having to take cabs almost everywhere.  Cabs here 
are
 about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal for a college town? Is this
 expensive for a cab?

 Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available 
or
 take
 cabs?

 Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
 wherever?

 Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling 
and
 asking the right questions?

 From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the 
bus
 again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
 take
 two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two hours.  
Is
 this normal for a large town/small city?

 The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
 goes
 there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track 
train
 you
 have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going twice daily
 reasonable?

 For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how 
do
 you
 find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends, 
and
 taking the bus?

 What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
 cabs
 all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.

 I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
 sure
 I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking cabs, 
but
 sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend 
the
 money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been
 told
 owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when the
 cost
 of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added up 
but
 again these have just been from sighted people who don't take 
cabs.
 It
 seems like most other blind people I know don't take cabs unless
 they
 absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all the time.  In 
one
 sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead, don't worry about 
it,
 owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then on the other hand 
so
 many
 blind people don't seem to like doing it.  I know each town is
 different...but if I want to go somewhere and it's after 6 and 
the
 bus
 doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my only options? I've 
never
 gone
 completely broke or run out of money by taking cabs but 
again...I
 feel
 as if I'm getting mixed messages and I want to make sure I'm 
doing
 the
 right/best thing.  From where I live you can't walk anywhere as
 there
 are several things across the street but it's not actually a 
street
 but a major six-lane highway...so walking is out.  I'm not 
married
 and
 live alone.  Do those of you who live in towns like this find
 yourselves having to also take cabs more frequently than other
 blind
 people? I know my questions seem a little crazy but I thought 
I'd
 ask
 them all in one post.

 Thanks so much!

 Kerri

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