[Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

Danielle Montour dannivoiceangel333 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 12 00:18:55 UTC 2010


I love the Kurig personally because you can take it everywhere, 
and the best part is is that you don't have to refill the water 
every time you make a cup of coffee.  To my knowledge, there are 
even iced coffee and tea K-Cup.

Danielle

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
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Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:12:10 -0400
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The keurig is the absolute best.  You get what you pay for!

Steve
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 You can use regular coffee with the Keurig if it has the My 
K-cup
 adapter with it, which most of them do.  I have a Keurig, have 
never
 had any trouble with it.  Buyer beware.  Sometimes you get what 
you
 pay for and that $20 wonder may not be all it is supposed to be.  
The
 Keurig is durable, works well, and is company guaranteed, so if
 something goes wrong with it, they will either send you the 
defective
 part or replace the machine for no additional cost.  Cheaper is 
not
 always better.  I learned the hard way with a computer.  Bought 
a
 cheap one and it was a real lemon from day one.

 Connie
 At 01:43 PM 10/11/2010, you wrote:
there is a less expensive version of  this very expensive machine
sold by Black n Deckdr you can get at Wall Mart or Target for 
around
twenty dollars and you can use your regular coffee you buy at the
store, Jeanette
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Hi,
Here's a good idea.  If you only want one cup of coffee, hot
chocolate, or tea at a time, I'd get the Keurig machine.  There 
are
KCups that go with it, and all the machine needs is water in the
side compartment and an outlet.  You'd just fill up the side
compartment, which lasts for over five cups.  All you have to do 
is
lift up the top part of the machine, put in the KCup, then close
it.  It's easy to use and
accessible.

HTH

Danielle
----- Original Message -----
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Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:58:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

  I used to love using coffee makers, but I had trouble keeping 
bugs
away.  Now I buy coffee beans and have a grinder and a French 
Press and
an electric kettle.  I measure out three scoops of coffee beans 
into the
grinder, plug it in, hold the button down for a twelve-fourteen 
count,
unplug, pour into the press and wait while the water boils.  
After that,
pour in the water, let sit for five minutes with the top o    n 
and the
plunger up, then push it down and give it a minute or two.  Then 
pour.
Takes some time, because of the waiting, but still worth it.  
Now, all I
need is to learn how to make the cold coffee and chocolate drinks 
I like
and I'll be content.

For all that making coffee that way takes time, it's overall less
expensive, because you only have to go to the store once to get a 
large
can of coffee beans and freeze them.  (They say freezing 
preserves the
whatever it is that makes the coffee good, and leaving it out 
doesn't.)

Jane








On 10/11/2010 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
Good morning everyone,

      One idea is being over-looked in this discussion.  Why not 
do some
 of
your grocery shopping online? If you like Starbuck's Coffee why 
not order
it
via their Web site and learn to make it yourself.  You could take 
that
cab
fare you're paying and pay the shipping to order items in bulk.  
Since we
no
longer have a large grocery store within walking distance we're 
examining
our shopping habits to decide which items we can order online and 
which
items require a trip to the store to help save time and money.

Peter Donahue

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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:16 AM
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questions


It seems rather a waste of money for a $3 late.
Ron
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From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:28 PM
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questions


Hi Cindy and All:

I was thinking more along the lines of Starbucks...I used to 
never
drink coffee but last week I took the plunge and tried a pumpkin 
spice
latte...mmmmm...now I'm addicted...I really want to get another 
one
soon but don't really have anyone to take me and I have no idea
whether the bus goes to Starbucks...I doubt it...so the only 
thing I
could think to do was to take a cab, have them drive me through
Starbucks, I get the pumpkin spice coffee, then they takeme 
home...and
of course I pay the fare...has anyone ever done this?

Does Starbucks sell food or just coffee?

Mmmmmm...pumpkin spice coffee...mmm lol...if you haven't tried it 
yet
you should lol

Kerri!

On 10/9/10, Cindy Handel<cindy425 at verizon.net>  wrote:
Kerri,

I'm sure, as long as you're willing to pay the fare, a cab would 
take you
through a drive-through for food.

Cindy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:15 PM
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

Hi:

Well, unfortunately it turns out we don't have paratransit or 
dial a
ride service here so that's out for me even if I wanted it.

I'm fine with money lol...I just don't want to overspend on
transportation while everyone else gets to use buses, public
transportation, or paratransit...that's all! I asked these 
questions
because I want to make sure I'm not having to over-spend or spend 
tons
more than other people who live in small towns.

I do have another question though I just thought of.  Is it 
possible to
take a cab, go through a drive-through, then go back home and of
course pay the fare? What do you do when you want something real
quick...like something from say McDonalds or Sonic or Starbucks? 
A
sighted person just gets into their car, goes, then goes right 
back
home...as long as the fare is paid is it possible to do this with 
a
cab?

Also...just out of pure boredom and curiosity I looked up the 
cost of
owning a car...obviously it varies depending on the type of car 
and
how much gas/insurance costs but from what I found it said a car 
can
cost anywhere from $8,000 a year to $15,000 a year.  It also said
monthly it costs about $612...so it seems to me we get off cheap 
in
terms of transportation.  The site also said that according to 
the
Department of Labor survey and statistics vehicles are the second
biggest expense for most households...I forget what the first 
was...so
it seems like to me we get off cheap when it comes to
transportation...even if you have to pay $5 a cab to get anywhere 
like
I do.

Kerri

On 10/9/10, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
the reality of 70% unemployed is that money saved versus extra 
time
spent

is
acceptable.
lets see you send Kerri significant cab bucks and see if your 
opinion
changes.


Bryan Schulz

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Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time 
is
money!
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
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questions


if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost 
about
$25
each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw away 
the
extra
money?

Bryan Schulz

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questions


Get a cab!
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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


Hi All:

I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
transportation.
Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all 
my
questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.

I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.

In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights
of
steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
steps?
Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of 
the
bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much 
as
I
can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way 
to
carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts
them
in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on your
shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this as
easy
as possible.

How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you
just
get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as little 
as
possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you are at
the
store and get lots of stuff?

My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
town.
I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, 
four
or
more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two 
movie
theaters.  It isn't a major city though.

We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it.
I've
just been expected to take cabs everywhere.

One of the problems though is that the town is not really a 
walking
town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
When
things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left
out.

There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB 
chapter.
So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
covers
many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's 
downtown
where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.  Because 
of
this,
I find myself having to take cabs almost everywhere.  Cabs here 
are
about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal for a college town? Is this
expensive for a cab?

Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available 
or
take
cabs?

Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
wherever?

Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
asking the right questions?

 From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the 
bus
again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
take
two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two hours.  
Is
this normal for a large town/small city?

The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
goes
there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track train
you
have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going twice daily
reasonable?

For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do
you
find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends, and
taking the bus?

What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
cabs
all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.

I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
sure
I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking cabs, 
but
sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend 
the
money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been
told
owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when the
cost
of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added up but
again these have just been from sighted people who don't take 
cabs.
It
seems like most other blind people I know don't take cabs unless
they
absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all the time.  In 
one
sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead, don't worry about 
it,
owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then on the other hand so
many
blind people don't seem to like doing it.  I know each town is
different...but if I want to go somewhere and it's after 6 and 
the
bus
doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my only options? I've never
gone
completely broke or run out of money by taking cabs but again...I
feel
as if I'm getting mixed messages and I want to make sure I'm 
doing
the
right/best thing.  From where I live you can't walk anywhere as
there
are several things across the street but it's not actually a 
street
but a major six-lane highway...so walking is out.  I'm not 
married
and
live alone.  Do those of you who live in towns like this find
yourselves having to also take cabs more frequently than other
blind
people? I know my questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd
ask
them all in one post.

Thanks so much!

Kerri

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