[Blindtlk] Book players

Tue Oct 19 12:30:08 UTC 2010

The Book Sense also has a clock and some really cool alarm 
settings.  It also has a record feature, but I believe the Victor does as well.

Connie
At 11:56 PM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
>My friend loves her Bookport Plus.  I like that unlike the victor 
>stream, the Bookport has a concept of time and has a clock, whereas 
>the stream has neither.
>
>Danni
>
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>From: anjelinac26 at gmail.com
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>Date sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:01:01 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>The feature I most liked about the Bookport is it useddouble A batteries.
>
>Anjelina
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Mari Hunziker <marihunziker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>So cool,Thanks, Mari Hunziker
>
>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Danielle Montour <hypoplexer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>Hi,
>For Gary: there is now the Bookport plus.  My friend has one.
>For Mari: you can also play mp3 files on your Victor Stream.  I have put
>audio described movies on mine before, and it's great to listen to on a car
>or plane ride.
>
>HTH
>
>Danni
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:05:50 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>I have a Book Sense and Rick has the Victor Reader.  The Sense is
>smaller.  They both have good points.  I love the Book Sense.
>You
>can get the deluxe one with a radio in it, but I didn't get that one,
>just got the plain reading machine.  You can also put music on either
>device.
>
>Connie
>At 06:13 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
>Mary,
>
>For reading books, I would highly recommend the Victor Reader Stream.  It's
>small, can be worn with a shoulder strap, and you would read books while
>doing other tasks, during the day.
>
>Cindy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>
>Gary and Dave,
>What type of portable reader do you all use.  I have been wanting one for
>years.  I don't know how to read braille, although, I really do wish I did.
>I
>want to read more but I only get to when my kids will allow me to sit on my
>front porch swing.  I take out a small, easy to carry-up to my nose-book
>that
>I can use my magnifier with.  But sadly it takes me so long to read with
>the
>magnifier that I only get about 2-3 pages read if even that much.  Do you
>all
>use the Victor Reader Stream? I have been thinking about getting me one.
>What is your opinion on that.
>Thanks,
>Mari Hunziker
>
>On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>
>Gary you are right!  I have a long commute, an hour 45 minutes each way.
>I
>skim half a dozen newspapers a day, on my stream, and read an average of a
>book every day and a half.  I love to read, and wouldn't want to give it
>up
>-- the commute is the perfect opportunity.
>
>Dave
>
>At 10:14 AM 10/12/2010, you wrote:
>
>I read a most interesting article several years ago and the thesis was
>that
>many of us would have an easier time with public transportation, where
>available, if we would see the time we spend in transit as a plus rather
>than a minus.  The article noted that many people who drive long distances
>to
>and from work complain about their inability to read, and yet writing
>while
>somebody else does the driving is a perfect way to have that time.  I
>don't
>think anything we can say will do away with the frustration that occurs
>when
>we realize some people can easily run to the store, but for most of us it
>takes more planning.  Still, I have to tell you that I have been much more
>peaceful about late cabs, buses, and airplanes just by having a portable
>reader in my pocket.
>
>Gary
>
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>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Cindy Handel
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:44 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>Yes, it could be said that time is money.  But, I don't think they would
>accept "time" to pay for groceries!
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:54 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time is
>money!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>
>if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost about
>$25 each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw away
>the extra money?
>
>Bryan Schulz
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
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>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation
>questions
>
>
>Get a cab!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com
>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
>Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>
>
>Hi All:
>
>I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
>transportation.
>Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all my
>questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.
>
>I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.
>
>In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
>Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights
>of steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
>steps?
>Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of the
>bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much as
>I can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way
>to carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts
>them in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on
>your shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this
>as easy as possible.
>
>How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you
>just get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as
>little as possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you
>are at the store and get lots of stuff?
>
>My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
>town.
>I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
>considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, four
>or more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two
>movie theaters.  It isn't a major city though.
>
>We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it.
>I've just been expected to take cabs everywhere.
>
>One of the problems though is that the town is not really a walking
>town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
>When things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left
>out.
>
>There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB chapter.
>So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
>students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
>covers many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's
>downtown where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.
>Because of this, I find myself having to take cabs almost
>everywhere.  Cabs here are about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal for a
>college town? Is this expensive for a cab?
>
>Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available or
>take cabs?
>
>Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
>wherever?
>
>Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
>asking the right questions?
>
> From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the bus
>
>again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
>take two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two
>hours.  Is this normal for a large town/small city?
>
>The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
>goes there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track
>train you have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going twice
>daily reasonable?
>
>For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do
>you find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends,
>and taking the bus?
>
>What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
>cabs all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.
>
>I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
>sure I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking cabs,
>but sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend
>the money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been
>told owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when
>the cost of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added
>up but again these have just been from sighted people who don't
>take cabs.  It seems like most other blind people I know don't take
>cabs unless they absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all
>the time.  In one sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead,
>don't worry about it, owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then
>on the other hand so many blind people don't seem to like doing it.
>I know each town is different...but if I want to go somewhere and
>it's after 6 and the bus doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my
>only options? I've never gone completely broke or run out of money
>by taking cabs but again...I feel as if I'm getting mixed messages
>and I want to make sure I'm doing the right/best thing.  From where
>I live you can't walk anywhere as there are several things across
>the street but it's not actually a street but a major six-lane
>highway...so walking is out.  I'm not married and live alone.
>Do
>those of you who live in towns like this find yourselves having to
>also take cabs more frequently than other blind people? I know my
>questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd ask them all in one
>post.
>
>Thanks so much!
>
>Kerri
>
>
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