[Blindtlk] Book players

Tue Oct 19 19:29:56 UTC 2010

Yes, the victor has that as well, and quite clear, however, it is 
in a 3gp format, so it needs to be converted to play anywhere 
else.

Danni

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From: Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
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Date sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:30:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Book players

The Book Sense also has a clock and some really cool alarm
settings.  It also has a record feature, but I believe the Victor 
does as well.

Connie
At 11:56 PM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
My friend loves her Bookport Plus.  I like that unlike the victor
stream, the Bookport has a concept of time and has a clock, 
whereas
the stream has neither.

Danni

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questions

The feature I most liked about the Bookport is it useddouble A 
batteries.

Anjelina
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Mari Hunziker 
<marihunziker at gmail.com> wrote:

So cool,Thanks, Mari Hunziker

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Danielle Montour 
<hypoplexer at gmail.com>wrote:

Hi,
For Gary: there is now the Bookport plus.  My friend has one.
For Mari: you can also play mp3 files on your Victor Stream.  I 
have put
audio described movies on mine before, and it's great to listen 
to on a car
or plane ride.

HTH

Danni

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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

I have a Book Sense and Rick has the Victor Reader.  The Sense is
smaller.  They both have good points.  I love the Book Sense.
You
can get the deluxe one with a radio in it, but I didn't get that 
one,
just got the plain reading machine.  You can also put music on 
either
device.

Connie
At 06:13 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
Mary,

For reading books, I would highly recommend the Victor Reader 
Stream.  It's
small, can be worn with a shoulder strap, and you would read 
books while
doing other tasks, during the day.

Cindy

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From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

Gary and Dave,
What type of portable reader do you all use.  I have been wanting 
one for
years.  I don't know how to read braille, although, I really do 
wish I did.
I
want to read more but I only get to when my kids will allow me to 
sit on my
front porch swing.  I take out a small, easy to carry-up to my 
nose-book
that
I can use my magnifier with.  But sadly it takes me so long to 
read with
the
magnifier that I only get about 2-3 pages read if even that much.  
Do you
all
use the Victor Reader Stream? I have been thinking about getting 
me one.
What is your opinion on that.
Thanks,
Mari Hunziker

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David Andrews 
<dandrews at visi.com> wrote:

Gary you are right!  I have a long commute, an hour 45 minutes 
each way.
I
skim half a dozen newspapers a day, on my stream, and read an 
average of a
book every day and a half.  I love to read, and wouldn't want to 
give it
up
-- the commute is the perfect opportunity.

Dave

At 10:14 AM 10/12/2010, you wrote:

I read a most interesting article several years ago and the 
thesis was
that
many of us would have an easier time with public transportation, 
where
available, if we would see the time we spend in transit as a plus 
rather
than a minus.  The article noted that many people who drive long 
distances
to
and from work complain about their inability to read, and yet 
writing
while
somebody else does the driving is a perfect way to have that 
time.  I
don't
think anything we can say will do away with the frustration that 
occurs
when
we realize some people can easily run to the store, but for most 
of us it
takes more planning.  Still, I have to tell you that I have been 
much more
peaceful about late cabs, buses, and airplanes just by having a 
portable
reader in my pocket.

Gary

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[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Cindy Handel
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

Yes, it could be said that time is money.  But, I don't think 
they would
accept "time" to pay for groceries!

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From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:54 PM
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Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time 
is
money!
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
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if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost 
about
$25 each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw 
away
the extra money?

Bryan Schulz

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
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questions

Get a cab!
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From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

Hi All:

I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
transportation.
Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all 
my
questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.

I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.

In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights
of steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
steps?
Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of 
the
bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much 
as
I can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way
to carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger 
puts
them in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on
your shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make 
this
as easy as possible.

How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you
just get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as
little as possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact 
you
are at the store and get lots of stuff?

My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
town.
I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, 
four
or more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two
movie theaters.  It isn't a major city though.

We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it.
I've just been expected to take cabs everywhere.

One of the problems though is that the town is not really a 
walking
town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
When things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is 
left
out.

There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB 
chapter.
So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
covers many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's
downtown where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.
Because of this, I find myself having to take cabs almost
everywhere.  Cabs here are about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal 
for a
college town? Is this expensive for a cab?

Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available 
or
take cabs?

Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
wherever?

Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
asking the right questions?

 From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the 
bus

again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
take two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two
hours.  Is this normal for a large town/small city?

The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
goes there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track
train you have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going 
twice
daily reasonable?

For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do
you find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends,
and taking the bus?

What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
cabs all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.

I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
sure I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking 
cabs,
but sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to 
spend
the money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've 
been
told owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when
the cost of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is 
added
up but again these have just been from sighted people who don't
take cabs.  It seems like most other blind people I know don't 
take
cabs unless they absolutely have to and I hate having to do it 
all
the time.  In one sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead,
don't worry about it, owning a vehicle is expensive too...but 
then
on the other hand so many blind people don't seem to like doing 
it.
I know each town is different...but if I want to go somewhere and
it's after 6 and the bus doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my
only options? I've never gone completely broke or run out of 
money
by taking cabs but again...I feel as if I'm getting mixed 
messages
and I want to make sure I'm doing the right/best thing.  From 
where
I live you can't walk anywhere as there are several things across
the street but it's not actually a street but a major six-lane
highway...so walking is out.  I'm not married and live alone.
Do
those of you who live in towns like this find yourselves having 
to
also take cabs more frequently than other blind people? I know my
questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd ask them all in 
one
post.

Thanks so much!

Kerri

                      David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
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