[Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Wed Sep 1 10:24:11 UTC 2010

I really don't know how this posting got away from what I was saying.

I had posted here to remind people to report to the companies such as 
airtran or any other one that you are having issues with, on the NAGDU list 
recent there was discussion about the TSA people asking us to remove the 
harness on the dog, this is against what they are supposed to be doing and 
just patting down the dogs.  President Gwizdala wrote to the TSA and had a 
reply that no TSA or security person is to be asking a service animal 
handler to remove it.

The point being made the companies or not reporting the incidents to the DOJ 
so again, if we have issues, I will help in anyway I can with this to direct 
you on how to report the issues so that others don't go through with this, 
if you are having issues going through security then TSA needs to know about 
it to fix it.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might 
findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

> Mari:
>
> I think the key -- at least initially -- to not feeling like a prisoner is
> to note the word you are using -- "I feel ...". This means that you have
> control; that's what cognitive therapy is all about -- learning when you
> have negative thoughts and how to eradicate or alter them. In life, you 
> can
> choose to view your cup as either half-empty or half-full. At the moment,
> you are choosing to view it as half-empty. To view it as half-full, note
> that you have already taken steps to solve the problem -- you're getting 
> rid
> of debt; you're cutting back on your location-related obligations; you're
> putting your house on the market. So while things may be inconvenient at 
> the
> moment, the situation may not last forever although it's a crummy real
> estate market these days. But you've taken some steps. Is that not 
> progress?
> Is that not taking control, at least a bit?
>
> I realize that when you're in a situation and feel desperate, it seems 
> like
> it will never change. But there are few certainties in life and in this
> case, that's a good thing.
>
> So try to celebrate what you've already done and look forward to the 
> future.
> And you might want to cultivate some hobbies -- reading, ham radio,
> whatever -- to get your mind off your troubles.
>
> Again, usual caveat applies -- I'm not in your situation so take my
> ruminations for what they're worth to you.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>
>
> >I like that so much. I wish I had choices. I feel like a prisoner
> >sometimes.
> > I don't know how to change that feeling. I made my husband put our house
> > on
> > the market and try and move to a neighborhood with more amenities so 
> > that
> > I
> > could walk my kids to do stuff. Our house is taking longer than I 
> > thought
> > for it to sell. We have also recently canceled our cable. And my husband
> > cut
> > up our credit cards. I feel alone, helpless, trapped.
> > mari
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <
> > david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes. As Dr. Jernigan pointed out years ago (why am I feeling Old this
> >> morning?) independence has more than one definition. The bottom line is
> >> you
> >> should have choice in the help you accept.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:57 AM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> >> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >> Well, David, if a blind person needs help getting toa flight or getting
> >> on
> >> a plane, I hope he's got the sense enough to ask for it.  IF not, I 
> >> hope
> >> he's got the snese enough to politely refuse it.  IS that your point?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>
> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> >>
> >> E-Mail:
> >> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> >> Skype Name:
> >> barefootedray
> >>
> >> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve, I've seen the same situation with the elderly, families, and
> >> people
> >> dragging their luggage on to the plain. Let us not assume that because
> >> some
> >> blind people need assistance, that all do. I am pleased that you take 
> >> it
> >> because you want to. Having been one of those who fought to be able to
> >> board
> >> with all the other passengers, I would resist the idea that I must 
> >> accept
> >> help, even when it is inconvenient.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:22 AM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> >> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >> I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the 
> >> flight
> >> crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling 
> >> around.
> >> This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into
> >> consideration.
> >> I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to
> >> assist me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business
> >> flier, then you know time is money!!
> >> Steve
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> >> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
> >> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >>
> >> > With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
> >> > There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or 
> >> > not.
> >> >
> >> > We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
> >> > busy intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer
> >> > to have a fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are
> >> > others who feel competent in this area and would prefer to be left
> >> > alone to do it themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a
> >> > sighted person comes up and offers some assistance which is politely
> >> > refused and the sighted person goes on about their business, , there
> >> > is no problem. If, however, that sighted person insists, grabs the
> >> > blind
> >> person's arm, not taking "no"
> >> > for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
> >> > tolerated.
> >> >
> >> > person
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Diane Graves
> >> > Civil Rights Specialist
> >> > Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> >> > Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> >> > 317-232-2647
> >> >
> >> > "It is service that measures success."
> >> > George Washington Carver
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> >> > [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> > On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
> >> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >> >
> >> > I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
> >> > e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related
> >> > to a guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person
> >> > force to sit in wheelchairs.
> >> >
> >> > It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has,
> >> > they might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the
> >> > blind.  Who knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here
> >> > since we are a non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for
> >> > the
> >> blind.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >> >
> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >> > Independent Travel Consultant
> >> > C10-10646
> >> >
> >> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
> >> > 1-866-580-5574
> >> > skype: angeldn3
> >> >
> >> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
> >> > CST-1018299-10 Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute
> >> > Cruise and Travel Inc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> >> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> >> >> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On
> >> >> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
> >> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> >> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >> >>
> >> >> Ray:
> >> >>
> >> >> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
> >> >> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA 
> >> >> mandates.
> >> >> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or 
> >> >> doing
> >> >> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had
> >> >> on
> >> >> file.
> >> >>
> >> >> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused 
> >> >> of
> >> >> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or
> >> >> not
> >> >> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
> >> >>
> >> >> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
> >> >> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
> >> >> there
> >> >> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty
> >> >> them
> >> a
> >> >> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the
> >> >> call
> >> >> to
> >> >> the ADA department.
> >> >>
> >> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >> >>
> >> >> Maurice
> >> >>
> >> >> We know that you have a choice in choosing a Travel Partner and 
> >> >> truly
> >> >> appreciate that you have selected Peachtree Travel.
> >> >>
> >> >> Independent Travel Consultant
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