[Blindtlk] Thought you all might find thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Wed Sep 1 02:15:08 UTC 2010

Mari:

I think the key -- at least initially -- to not feeling like a prisoner is 
to note the word you are using -- "I feel ...". This means that you have 
control; that's what cognitive therapy is all about -- learning when you 
have negative thoughts and how to eradicate or alter them. In life, you can 
choose to view your cup as either half-empty or half-full. At the moment, 
you are choosing to view it as half-empty. To view it as half-full, note 
that you have already taken steps to solve the problem -- you're getting rid 
of debt; you're cutting back on your location-related obligations; you're 
putting your house on the market. So while things may be inconvenient at the 
moment, the situation may not last forever although it's a crummy real 
estate market these days. But you've taken some steps. Is that not progress? 
Is that not taking control, at least a bit?

I realize that when you're in a situation and feel desperate, it seems like 
it will never change. But there are few certainties in life and in this 
case, that's a good thing.

So try to celebrate what you've already done and look forward to the future. 
And you might want to cultivate some hobbies -- reading, ham radio, 
whatever -- to get your mind off your troubles.

Again, usual caveat applies -- I'm not in your situation so take my 
ruminations for what they're worth to you.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

>I like that so much. I wish I had choices. I feel like a prisoner 
>sometimes.
> I don't know how to change that feeling. I made my husband put our house 
> on
> the market and try and move to a neighborhood with more amenities so that 
> I
> could walk my kids to do stuff. Our house is taking longer than I thought
> for it to sell. We have also recently canceled our cable. And my husband 
> cut
> up our credit cards. I feel alone, helpless, trapped.
> mari
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <
> david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>
>> Yes. As Dr. Jernigan pointed out years ago (why am I feeling Old this
>> morning?) independence has more than one definition. The bottom line is 
>> you
>> should have choice in the help you accept.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:57 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
>> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>>
>> Well, David, if a blind person needs help getting toa flight or getting 
>> on
>> a plane, I hope he's got the sense enough to ask for it.  IF not, I hope
>> he's got the snese enough to politely refuse it.  IS that your point?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>
>> E-Mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
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>>
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>>
>> Steve, I've seen the same situation with the elderly, families, and 
>> people
>> dragging their luggage on to the plain. Let us not assume that because 
>> some
>> blind people need assistance, that all do. I am pleased that you take it
>> because you want to. Having been one of those who fought to be able to 
>> board
>> with all the other passengers, I would resist the idea that I must accept
>> help, even when it is inconvenient.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:22 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
>> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>>
>> I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight
>> crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling around.
>> This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into 
>> consideration.
>> I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to
>> assist me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business
>> flier, then you know time is money!!
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
>> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>>
>>
>> > With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key.
>> > There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
>> >
>> > We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
>> > busy intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer
>> > to have a fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are
>> > others who feel competent in this area and would prefer to be left
>> > alone to do it themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a
>> > sighted person comes up and offers some assistance which is politely
>> > refused and the sighted person goes on about their business, , there
>> > is no problem. If, however, that sighted person insists, grabs the 
>> > blind
>> person's arm, not taking "no"
>> > for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
>> > tolerated.
>> >
>> > person
>> >
>> >
>> > Diane Graves
>> > Civil Rights Specialist
>> > Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> > Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> > 317-232-2647
>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> > On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
>> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >
>> > I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
>> > e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related
>> > to a guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person
>> > force to sit in wheelchairs.
>> >
>> > It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has,
>> > they might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the
>> > blind.  Who knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here
>> > since we are a non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for 
>> > the
>> blind.
>> >
>> >
>> > The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >
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>> > Independent Travel Consultant
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>> >
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>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> > interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >
>> >
>> >> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> >> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
>> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >>
>> >> Ray:
>> >>
>> >> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>> >> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
>> >> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
>> >> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had 
>> >> on
>> >> file.
>> >>
>> >> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
>> >> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or 
>> >> not
>> >> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>> >>
>> >> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
>> >> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
>> >> there
>> >> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty 
>> >> them
>> a
>> >> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the 
>> >> call
>> >> to
>> >> the ADA department.
>> >>
>> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >>
>> >> Maurice
>> >>
>> >> We know that you have a choice in choosing a Travel Partner and truly
>> >> appreciate that you have selected Peachtree Travel.
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