[Blindtlk] Thought you allmight findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disabilityviolations

Wed Sep 1 13:15:04 UTC 2010

Being a guide dog user and member of NAGDU.

When you go through security prior to walking through the metal detector, 
you put you dog on a sit stay command, and no the harness does not come off 
and if security is asking you to, ask for security, if you have a pack on 
the harness like a pouch some of use when we are out, please remove it and 
put in the bin with other things to go through metal detectors.

Again prior to walking through metal detector, put dog on a sit, stay 
command, and make the leash long, and you walk though, then call the dog, 
the dog's harness will go off, and they are supposed to pat down the dog and 
make sure nothing visible on the dog and that is it.  Very  easy, if you are 
a guide dog user and have been trained with a school, and the school is near 
an airport, such as the guide dog foundation for the blind, inc of 
Smithtown, NY which is where I got my maxx, since I live about 10 minutes 
away, one of the training sites is MacArthur Airport in Islip, NY near the 
school, as well as training on the Long Island Railroad and also traveling 
through subway stations in Queens and NY city sometimes.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you allmight 
findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disabilityviolations

> I'm just curious. How do they handle the security situation with someone 
> who is using a dog? Doesn't the harness have some metal on it? How does 
> that work?
>
>
> Diane Graves
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> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:05 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTran 
> fined $500K for disability violations
>
> brian:
>
> I agree and do the same as you; I collapse the cane and put it in the
> bucket. When it comes to airport security and T S A, to argue the point is 
> a
> no-win proposition. And yes, the metal tip might be enough to set the 
> alarm
> off in some airports; different airports set the alarms at different 
> levels
> of sensitivity.
>
> I realize that some may consider it a matter of principle that they should
> be able to use their canes while going through the screening device.
> However, as a practical matter, I have to wonder why this is such a big
> deal; one only has to take two or three steps through the device and as 
> long
> as one doesn't touch the sides (I keep one hand behind me during the
> process), you won't trigger the alarm if you haven't any metal on you. Are
> we in general so directionally-challenged that we cannot take three steps
> without a cane? After all, I've never seen one of these devices that
> debouched onto a flight of stairs! (grin)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTran
> fined $500K for disability violations
>
>
> > hi,
> >
> > you probably know more about this, what have you heard about going thru
> > the x-ray walls?
> > are most people told to put their cane on the belt and grab the security
> > workers wrists and they guide you thru or do people go thru with their
> > cane?
> >
> > how common is it for someone to say run my cane thru and give it back 
> > then
> > i will walk thru?
> >
> > the few times i have done this, the worker gets ignorant if you try to
> > walk thru with the cane so i collapse it and put it in the bucket to 
> > avoid
> > taking the chance of missing the flight.
> >
> > Bryan Schulz
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
> > thisinteresting-AirTran
> > fined $500K for disability violations
> >
> >
> >>I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
> >>e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related to 
> >>a
> >>guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person force to
> >>sit in wheelchairs.
> >>
> >> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has, 
> >> they
> >> might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the blind.  Who
> >> knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here since we are a
> >> non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the blind.
> >>
> >>
> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >> Independent Travel Consultant
> >> C10-10646
> >>
> >> http://Echevarriatravel.com
> >> 1-866-580-5574
> >> skype: angeldn3
> >>
> >> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
> >> CST-1018299-10
> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel
> >> Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> >> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >>
> >>
> >>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>> On Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
> >>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
> >>>
> >>> Ray:
> >>>
> >>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
> >>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
> >>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
> >>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had 
> >>> on
> >>> file.
> >>>
> >>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
> >>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or 
> >>> not
> >>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
> >>>
> >>> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
> >>> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller
> >>> there wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't 
> >>> guaranty
> >>> them a accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer
> >>> the call to the ADA department.
> >>>
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> >>> Maurice
> >>>
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