[Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Wed Sep 1 13:40:35 UTC 2010

Sometimes, even though they know what the harness is, they have used the 
wand on my husband's dog.  He has also taken the harness off and let her 
come through, to me, after I go through.

Cindy
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I'm just curious. How do they handle the security situation with someone who 
is using a dog? Doesn't the harness have some metal on it? How does that 
work?

Diane Graves
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Indiana Civil Rights Commission
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTran 
fined $500K for disability violations

brian:

I agree and do the same as you; I collapse the cane and put it in the
bucket. When it comes to airport security and T S A, to argue the point is a
no-win proposition. And yes, the metal tip might be enough to set the alarm
off in some airports; different airports set the alarms at different levels
of sensitivity.

I realize that some may consider it a matter of principle that they should
be able to use their canes while going through the screening device.
However, as a practical matter, I have to wonder why this is such a big
deal; one only has to take two or three steps through the device and as long
as one doesn't touch the sides (I keep one hand behind me during the
process), you won't trigger the alarm if you haven't any metal on you. Are
we in general so directionally-challenged that we cannot take three steps
without a cane? After all, I've never seen one of these devices that
debouched onto a flight of stairs! (grin)

Mike

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From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:59 AM
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> hi,
>
> you probably know more about this, what have you heard about going thru
> the x-ray walls?
> are most people told to put their cane on the belt and grab the security
> workers wrists and they guide you thru or do people go thru with their
> cane?
>
> how common is it for someone to say run my cane thru and give it back then
> i will walk thru?
>
> the few times i have done this, the worker gets ignorant if you try to
> walk thru with the cane so i collapse it and put it in the bucket to avoid
> taking the chance of missing the flight.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
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> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find thisinteresting-AirTran
> fined $500K for disability violations
>
>
>>I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
>>e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related to a
>>guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person force to
>>sit in wheelchairs.
>>
>> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has, they
>> might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the blind.  Who
>> knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here since we are a
>> non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the blind.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>>
>>
>>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
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>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>>>
>>> Ray:
>>>
>>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
>>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
>>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had on
>>> file.
>>>
>>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
>>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or not
>>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>>>
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