[Blindtlk] [Flagdu] Samsung Haven & Gusto

[David Andrews]

Marion:

For a variety of reasons, I am 99.99 percent sure that the KNFB 
Reader software will not run on the Samsung Gusto.  I would think the 
phone isn't powerful enough, the camera isn't of adequate quality, 
and the operating system is wrong too.  Not even close.

Dave

At 08:24 PM 9/10/2010, you wrote:
>    I went to the Verizon Wireless store today and looked at the 
> Gusto and the Haven. The Gusto is the same size as my Motorola 
> phone (about 3" square and 1/2' thick when closed) , but the keys 
> are slightly largerand it has no antenna sticking up from it. It is 
> also a camera phone, which leads me to wonder if the KNFB Mobile 
> software could be loaded onto it! The Haven is about 2" wide, 4" 
> long, and about 1/2" thick; it is not a camera phone. The voice on 
> the Haven is louder than that on the Gusto, but that isn't a 
> deal-breaker, as I prefer something that is not too intrusive! I am 
> leaning toward the Gusto if I can find something out about its 
> accessibility to all the features. The rep in the store really 
> didn't know. Is there some place reliable information on this can be found?
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Marion
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Flagdu] Samsung Haven & Gusto
>
>
>>Wow Guys! It looks like I didn't do my homework. I got the KNFB 
>>reader as a very generous gift along with my NFB scholarship last 
>>year. I simply could not wait to get it activated and have a 
>>totally accessible phone, This phone could only be activated 
>>through AT&T or Key Mobile. so we broke a contract with Verizon and 
>>now I owe them my next born child LOL .
>>
>>Well, we went with AT&T, and there rates are ridiculous. We are 
>>paying almost double what we paid Verizon, they have all these 
>>hidden charges, and not once have we paid the amount that they told 
>>us our bill would be
>>
>>Even on their printed statement, they have this area of their bill 
>>that is labeled other charges. It doesn't specify what those 
>>charges are, it just tacks them on there. But... Miss Impatient, I 
>>just couldn't wait. LOL I sure wish this subject could have come up 
>>6 months ago.
>>
>>
>>Diane Graves
>>Civil Rights Specialist
>>Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>317-232-2647
>>
>>"It is service that measures success."
>>George Washington Carver
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:41 PM
>>To: Marion Gwizdala; Florida Association of Guide Dog Users; 
>>blindtlk at nfbnet.org; NAGDU List; FLAGDU List
>>Cc: Marion Gwizdala
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Flagdu] Samsung Haven & Gusto
>>
>>The Haven has been positively reviewed and mentioned in a number of
>>places.  Apparently it is pretty successful.  I have seen nothing
>>anywhere abou5t a "Gusto" that doesn't mean it isn't accessible, bu5t
>>who knows.  Nuance produces test to speech software, such as
>>Eloquence that JAWS and others use, or Vocalizer in the Stream.  They
>>also develop the Talks screen reader used on various phones.
>>So, just telling you Nuance wouldn't necessarily indicate whether or
>>not a phone is accessible.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>At 10:02 AM 9/10/2010, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>>Dear All,
>>>     I apologize in advance if this message is off-topic for a
>>>couple of the lists, but it is blindness-related, so it is of
>>>general interest to all on these lists. I read an article in the
>>>Matilda Ziegler Magazine about the Samsung Haven. According to the
>>>author, this phone, available through Verizon Wireless is
>>>completely accessible. I have contacted Verizon and was told that
>>>they have another Samsung  phone - the Gusto - that comes loaded
>>>off the shelf with Nuance speech. Does anyone know if this phone is
>>>as accessible as the Haven? Merry and I want to purchase one and
>>>would like to know if this is an option. Does the Nuance speech
>>>make it accessible or are does it depend upon the phone itself?
>>>     Apparently, the only differences between the two phones is
>>>their size. the Haven is slightly larger and, as the result, has
>>>larger keys. I was told that the Gusto is about the size of the
>>>phone I am currently using. Furthermore, the Haven costs $40 and
>>>although the Gusto costs $50, it has a $50 mail-in rebate making it
>>>virtually free. any product review would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>>fraternally yours,
>>>Marion

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