[Blindtlk] [Flagdu] Samsung Haven & Gusto

Sat Sep 11 07:07:14 UTC 2010

Yes,  I talked to Samsung directly yesterday myself.  The fact appears to be that the Haven is thus far, the first and only phone with the full readout for accessibility.

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The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

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On Sep 10, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:

  I went to the Verizon Wireless store today and looked at the Gusto and the Haven. The Gusto is the same size as my Motorola phone (about 3" square and 1/2' thick when closed) , but the keys are slightly largerand it has no antenna sticking up from it. It is also a camera phone, which leads me to wonder if the KNFB Mobile software could be loaded onto it! The Haven is about 2" wide, 4" long, and about 1/2" thick; it is not a camera phone. The voice on the Haven is louder than that on the Gusto, but that isn't a deal-breaker, as I prefer something that is not too intrusive! I am leaning toward the Gusto if I can find something out about its accessibility to all the features. The rep in the store really didn't know. Is there some place reliable information on this can be found?

Fraternally yours,
Marion

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> Wow Guys! It looks like I didn't do my homework. I got the KNFB reader as a very generous gift along with my NFB scholarship last year. I simply could not wait to get it activated and have a totally accessible phone, This phone could only be activated through AT&T or Key Mobile. so we broke a contract with Verizon and now I owe them my next born child LOL .
> 
> Well, we went with AT&T, and there rates are ridiculous. We are paying almost double what we paid Verizon, they have all these hidden charges, and not once have we paid the amount that they told us our bill would be
> 
> Even on their printed statement, they have this area of their bill that is labeled other charges. It doesn't specify what those charges are, it just tacks them on there. But... Miss Impatient, I just couldn't wait. LOL I sure wish this subject could have come up 6 months ago.
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Flagdu] Samsung Haven & Gusto
> 
> The Haven has been positively reviewed and mentioned in a number of
> places.  Apparently it is pretty successful.  I have seen nothing
> anywhere abou5t a "Gusto" that doesn't mean it isn't accessible, bu5t
> who knows.  Nuance produces test to speech software, such as
> Eloquence that JAWS and others use, or Vocalizer in the Stream.  They
> also develop the Talks screen reader used on various phones.
> So, just telling you Nuance wouldn't necessarily indicate whether or
> not a phone is accessible.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 10:02 AM 9/10/2010, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>    I apologize in advance if this message is off-topic for a
>> couple of the lists, but it is blindness-related, so it is of
>> general interest to all on these lists. I read an article in the
>> Matilda Ziegler Magazine about the Samsung Haven. According to the
>> author, this phone, available through Verizon Wireless is
>> completely accessible. I have contacted Verizon and was told that
>> they have another Samsung  phone - the Gusto - that comes loaded
>> off the shelf with Nuance speech. Does anyone know if this phone is
>> as accessible as the Haven? Merry and I want to purchase one and
>> would like to know if this is an option. Does the Nuance speech
>> make it accessible or are does it depend upon the phone itself?
>>    Apparently, the only differences between the two phones is
>> their size. the Haven is slightly larger and, as the result, has
>> larger keys. I was told that the Gusto is about the size of the
>> phone I am currently using. Furthermore, the Haven costs $40 and
>> although the Gusto costs $50, it has a $50 mail-in rebate making it
>> virtually free. any product review would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> fraternally yours,
>> Marion
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