[Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.

Kelby Carlson kelbycarlson at usfamily.net
Fri Apr 15 17:21:07 UTC 2011 

Speaking from a just-turned-adult's perspective, I've not yet had 
any issue signing any legal release forms or documents.  My 
signature doesn't look great (I learned it in kindergartten and 
it hasn't been refined) it's always been taken.  I would consult 
some other attorneys.  From what's been said here, you can 
probably get a legal statement describing your signature.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.

>David, When I went to the attorney, in order to discuss Mom's 
will, and
>since I'm part owner of the house, I had to sign my name.  When I 
sign my
>name, I sign it (RJ) The Lawyer told me that this was not 
acceptable, and
>that I had to sign (Robert James Sandefur JR) However, I was only 
taught how
>to sign (RJ) and was told this was legally sufficient.  I was 
taught this by
>my vision teacher.  Who is right in this situation? The attorney, 
or my
>vision teacher? Sincerely, RJ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.


>> Dear Mary,

>> He is required to sign his forms and any other legal documents.
>> He can sign with an "X" if that is all he can do and you can get 
a
>> statement, notarized that the "x" is his signature in all legal 
matters.
>> You can also have him "sign" a power of Attorney, giving you the 
power to
>> sign for him in all legal matters.
>> You would need to send a copy of this along with your tax 
returns to the
>> IRS.
>> I am totally Blind and sign my name on checks and legal forms 
all of the
>> time and he can learn to do the same , if he wants too.
>> It just sounds like he is hiding behind his blindness.  He is 
giving up
>> his independence because he is afraid to try.
>> A signature guide would be just the thing to help him stay on 
the line and
>> keep from writing all over the place.
>> I write from memory and I hardly ever even use a signature 
guide, except
>> when the place to sign is small and I have to be specific in its
>> placement.

>> It sounds as if he maybe bitter and he is rebelling against his 
blindness
>> and the world by trying not to cooperate with you and do 
anything that
>> will show others he is blind and can not do things.
>> He is just not trying to help himself or you for that matter.
>> Good Luck with him.
>> Try to get him around other positive blind people, who are doing 
the right
>> things and using their independence such as traveling 
independently.  It
>> will given time, rub off on him.

>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary Mc Gee" <mmcatitude at gmail.com
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.


>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;

>>>            I need some original thinking here, I believe.  It's 
tax time
>>> and, as you know, when you're married, sometimes you choose to 
file a
>>> joint
>>> return, which both you and your spouse must sign.  I have no 
problem
>>> doing
>>> this; I'm the one who prepares the thing with the Schedules, 
etc.  My
>>> husband, who is totally blind, can't sign his name legibly.  
(It's
>>> debatable
>>> whether my signature is legible.)  Anyway, last year the IRS 
sent the
>>> return
>>> back saying the "spouse's signature is not authentic".  The IRS 
accepted
>>> mine but not his.  He refuses to use one of those signature 
guides or
>>> anything else like that.  He writes at an angle and the letters 
overlap.
>>> He
>>> says he shouldn't have to know how to sign his name.  I 
disagree.  Every
>>> year at tax time we argue about this because he feels, being 
blind, he
>>> shouldn't be expected to know how to make a legible signature.  
I argue
>>> that, since the majority of people working for the government 
are sighted
>>> and the signature is your verification, you need to sign 
government
>>> documents.

>>>            I guess my question is two-fold:

>>> 1.  Does anyone have any suggestions with respect to convincing 
him that
>>> he
>>> needs to make a signature?

>>> 2.  Has anyone else had a document returned, when a blind person 
signed
>>> it
>>> and the government refused to accept the signature?

>>>            Last near, I took the think to Sen.  Harkin's office 
and
>>> explained the problem.  I signed release, they took over and 
sent the
>>> return
>>> to the IRS, and I never heard another word till our refund check 
came.

>>>            Thanks for your input.

>>> Sincerely,

>>> Mary L.  McGee





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