[Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"

Tue Aug 2 17:30:07 UTC 2011

Hi Guys,

I would first applaud Gary's suggestion. I would first advise her to ignore the ridiculous demand. It doesn't even merit a response in my opinion. If they push it, however, and persist and continue to demand, then I would definitely get a civil rights agency or an attorney involved.

Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647

"It is service that measures success."
George Washington Carver

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary McGee
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:51 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"

Hi, All;
	I wouldn't even try to get anything from a doctor.  I'd contact the
Civil Rights Commission or an attorney.  We weren't sent here to save the
world and the only educating this management need is education about the
law.  
	I've read all these posts and I'm a bit biased, I realized, because
advocacy is what I do, but I seem to hear more about education than about
advocacy.  Perhaps ignorance is an excuse in life, but ignorance of the law
is NO excuse!  Martin Luther King said maybe you can't legislate morality,
but you CAN legislate how to treat people.  Stop the education and get an
attorney.
Sincerely,
Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:53 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: gwunder at earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"

Wonder if she can get a doctor to write how absurd the notion that 
his/her permission would be required for her to have a key that every 
other tenant on the premises is given, just because of blindness.  If 
the doctor is really good, they'll add that it's quite fortunate for 
the apartment manager that the letter is from a doctor and not a 
lawyer.  *grin*

I suspect MY doctor would write such a letter, if asked to do so.  In 
fact, he'd be greatly amused to do it!  Hers I'm not so sure about.  
But do feel free to give this email to the doctor in question for 
possible inspiration!  *evil grin*

Joseph - kf7qzc

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:09:14AM -0400, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>Sometimes, no matter how much you try to educate, people still have 
>their crazy misconceptions.  These are the times I'm really glad we 
>have the Federation!
>
>Chris
>
>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
>The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland 
>have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link 
>to learn more and to contribute: www.icanfoundation.info or like us 
>on Facebook at I C.A.N.  Foundation.
>
>
>
>Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net
>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:59:52 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"
>
>Our friend now has access to her pool.  They gave her a key but now 
>want a
>doctor's statement.  I suggested she ignore them.
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of T.  Joseph Carter
>Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:17 AM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"
>
>Would it matter if you were completely blind?  It's not like seeing 
>is a
>prerequisite for swimming.  Not getting lungs full of water seems to 
>be the
>most primary requirement.
>
>Joseph - KF7QZC
>
>
>On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 06:45:02PM -0700, Nikki Wunderlich wrote:
>exactly I mean I'm not completely blind, but I still have limited
>vision, and I still have access to our pool!
>
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