[Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"

Wed Aug 3 01:13:14 UTC 2011

Mary,

Certainly advocacy is a factor, and we should stand up for our rights 
in the end.  But often, a softer sell works wonders—and without the 
hostile distrust that always seems to exist after you seek refuge in 
the law.

When things happen as they inevitably will, I am forced to consider 
the next person.  Would a legal settlement benefit that person, or 
mostly just my lawyer?  If I can help the next guy, my lawyer, and 
myself, then maybe it’s worth going that route.  But usually, you 
can’t serve all three at once.

Joseph - kf7qzc

On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 11:51:16AM -0500, Mary McGee wrote:
>Hi, All;
>	I wouldn't even try to get anything from a doctor.  I'd contact the
>Civil Rights Commission or an attorney.  We weren't sent here to save the
>world and the only educating this management need is education about the
>law.
>	I've read all these posts and I'm a bit biased, I realized, because
>advocacy is what I do, but I seem to hear more about education than about
>advocacy.  Perhaps ignorance is an excuse in life, but ignorance of the law
>is NO excuse!  Martin Luther King said maybe you can't legislate morality,
>but you CAN legislate how to treat people.  Stop the education and get an
>attorney.
>Sincerely,
>Mary
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:53 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Cc: gwunder at earthlink.net
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"
>
>Wonder if she can get a doctor to write how absurd the notion that
>his/her permission would be required for her to have a key that every
>other tenant on the premises is given, just because of blindness.  If
>the doctor is really good, they'll add that it's quite fortunate for
>the apartment manager that the letter is from a doctor and not a
>lawyer.  *grin*
>
>I suspect MY doctor would write such a letter, if asked to do so.  In
>fact, he'd be greatly amused to do it!  Hers I'm not so sure about.
>But do feel free to give this email to the doctor in question for
>possible inspiration!  *evil grin*
>
>Joseph - kf7qzc
>
>
>On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:09:14AM -0400, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>>Sometimes, no matter how much you try to educate, people still have
>>their crazy misconceptions.  These are the times I'm really glad we
>>have the Federation!
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>
>>The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland
>>have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link
>>to learn more and to contribute: www.icanfoundation.info or like us
>>on Facebook at I C.A.N.  Foundation.
>>
>>
>>
>>Sent from my BrailleNote
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net
>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:59:52 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"
>>
>>Our friend now has access to her pool.  They gave her a key but now
>>want a
>>doctor's statement.  I suggested she ignore them.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of T.  Joseph Carter
>>Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:17 AM
>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] "Its not safe for someone who can't see"
>>
>>Would it matter if you were completely blind?  It's not like seeing
>>is a
>>prerequisite for swimming.  Not getting lungs full of water seems to
>>be the
>>most primary requirement.
>>
>>Joseph - KF7QZC
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 06:45:02PM -0700, Nikki Wunderlich wrote:
>>exactly I mean I'm not completely blind, but I still have limited
>>vision, and I still have access to our pool!
>>
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