[Blindtlk] about LWSB

Fri Aug 26 14:46:35 UTC 2011

Again, while not trying to defend the place, it has changed a bit
recently to not be so backwards. They've still got the issues with the
outdated handbook but those rules were never inforced, and there is no
guard making sure you relieve your dog at this time and you groom your
dog at that time. My problems with the handbook actually were that
they didn't follow the rules in the handbook, instead choosing to
create their own rules as they went along like a quiet hour that also
meant restriction from parts of the campus, and when I went to
administration with the book asking them to clarify the rules for my
ununderstanding mind they asked me if the only rules I followed were
the ones that were written down. Having said that, there isn't one
whole van for guides, actually there aren't enough of them for some of
the people they have going that really need them. And that psych eval
is seriously misnamed. It's more of a basic math/basic thinking test
to make sure that you can think logically and add up two plus three.
As bad as it sounds, there are individuals who go there who lack these
skills, and permitting them to procede with the training proram would
only waste everyone's time, although lately LWSB has been pushing
these very individuals into their programs because they gain funding
out of having them there for "evaluation".

On 26.08.2011, Gloria Whipple <ladygloria at webband.com> wrote:
> If I had to go to get any training from them, I would go without the
> training.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Graves, Diane
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 06:19
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] about LWSB
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I attended Lions World twice, both of them back in the 80s. The first time I
> was in a secretarial training program, and the second time was a basic
> medical transcription course. It has been so long ago, that I honestly don't
> recall whether or not I was forced to talk to a psychiatrist, but I do
> remember that the center had a very strict policy against staff members
> "fraternizing" with the students.
>
> One of my instructors was constantly getting in trouble, because she
> developed friendships with myself and other students and wanted to get
> together with us after hours. There was definitely a message sent to the
> students that "we are above you. You are second class. We are the
> authorities." The funny thing about that though was that the blind
> instructors, what few there were, got in much less trouble for things like
> that than did the sighted instructors. Most of the instructors were sighted
> though.
>
> Diane Graves
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> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:49 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] about LWSB
>
> Can’t think of any reason why they’d send Ray to a psychiatrist.  On
> the other foot, perhaps they were just trying to keep him on his
> toes.  Still, you have to tread lightly with such matters as some
> people have fairly sensitive skin underfoot.  At the same time, you
> can hardly walk 'round the issues indefinitely.  I dunno though, I
> just can’t put my foot on any plausible cause for concern here.
>
> *grin*
>
> LWSB pretty consistently continues to garner a reputation for being a
> bunch of sighted people who want us to know how awful it is to be
> blind, if nothing else.  That alone suggests to me all I need to know
> about the organization.
>
> Joseph - KF7QZC
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>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 09:35:11PM -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>You do not want to get me started on Lion's world!  That place is a trap
>> for the blind.  Did you know that it's mandatory to see the psychiatrist
>> just because you're blind there?  They still have the most backwards
>> philosophy about blindness I ever had anything to do with.  I'm not
>> talking from what somebody else told me; rather, I'm talking from actual
>> personal experience.
>>
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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>>On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Nikki wrote:
>>
>>>   I was talking about Lion's World in Arkansas.
>>> I'm not on the NABS list.
>>> I was just informed from a friend of mine who is on the list.
>>> My friend knows Rex through the faith talk list.
>>> So, I'm just a messenger, lol.
>>>
>>> I appreciate your offer.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: chris nusbaum
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:46 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] about LWSB
>>>
>>> Hi Nikki,
>>>
>>> First, do you mean LCB (Louissianna Center for the Blind?) Are you
>>> talking about an NFB training center or another one? Secondly, are you
>>> on the NABS list? If not, and you're interested in student-related
>>> things (if you are a student or not,) please join us!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 8/25/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>        Hi everyone.
>>>> Recently there was some question about LWSB
>>>> I have been informed there is a thread going on about it in the NABS
>>>> list,
>>>> in case you don’t already know.
>>>>
>>>> Rex, this is for you and anyone else curious about the training center.
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