[Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

Steve P. Deeley stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
Sat Dec 17 17:03:58 UTC 2011 

I am telling you all that the Red cross, itself, does not discriminate 
against anyone.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...


> Another possibility is that the state in which this company is located may
> have criminal remedies for discrimination against the disabled. If this 
> were
> to happen in Florida, for instance, the management could face sexcond 
> degree
> misdemeanor charges. There is also the option of filing a complaint with 
> the
> state's Attorney General's Office of Civil Rights, as well as with the
> United States Department of Justice.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>
>
>> No, how about another "condemn and deplore," coupled with another
>> "strongly urge" or "demand." As in, "We condemn and deplore all
>> discrimination against blind people wishing to donate blood," "we demand
>> all businesses and organizations facilitating blood drives or the giving
>> of blood by any means accept blind donors and deal with them in 
>> accordance
>> with all of their normal policies and rules."
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth in
>> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing assistive
>> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help them be
>> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the 
>> Foundation
>> and to support our work, visit us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:50:50 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> great, another 'we strongly urge'.
>> i 'strongly urge' you to send me $20.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Mike Freeman
>>  To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>  Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:12 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>>
>>
>>  AARRGG! Shades of the 1957 banquet speech, "The Cross of Blindness".  I
>> have
>>  never given blood but checked the last time there was a blood drive at 
>> my
>>  place of employment and was told that there would be no problems even
>> though
>>  I am an insulin-dependent diabetic.  Dr.  Maurer should be informed of
>> this
>>  and perhaps a resolution for Dallas is in order.
>>
>>  Incidentally, I believe the good pastor is in error: I do not believe
>> there
>>  is a Federal antidiscrimination statute that applies in this instance
>> unless
>>  a blood drive can be classified as a place of public accommodation,
>> program
>>  or service.  I hope I'm wrong.
>>
>>  Mike
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>>  Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:50 AM
>>  To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>>
>>  I have given blood here in Minnesota through my employer to the red 
>> cross
>>  and I am finding it
>>  increasingly difficult to donate.  We have had other problems in the 
>> Twin
>>  Cities in the past that we
>>  tried to address, but I must say, not having an emergency exit policy is
>>  about the most blatent and
>>  least defensible thing I have heard.  Certainly you have a right to feel
>>  frustrated, but it does seem
>>  that there is work to be done as well.  I can't help but wonder what
>> their
>>  general policy is to deal
>>  with someone who is half through giving blood and who might be dizzy if
>>  forced to stand in a hurry.  I
>>  would think that blindness would be the least of the problems that one
>> might
>>  have.  <smile
>>
>>  You might be interested to know that it is now common practice to not
>> permit
>>  someone you know to fill
>>  out the paperwork with you.  The justification is that you might not be
>>  honest with them in your
>>  answers.  This requires you to take the time of a staff person, and even
>> if
>>  they are willing, they are
>>  often required to tend to other tasks.
>>
>>  Were you working with a branch of the Red Cross there in Duluth or is it
>>  another type of blood bank?
>>
>>  Best regards,
>>
>>  Steve Jacobson
>>
>>  On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:35 -0600, James Kelm wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>    Well an interesting thing happened to my wife and I last Friday, and I
>> thought that I'd see what you all thought.  It seemed to be a relevant
>> story, based upon the recent conversations here on this list.
>>
>>    Wanting to do something good for our fellow human beings, my wife and 
>> I
>> decided that we would donate blood at one of our local blood banks.  We
>> arrived, filled out the necessary paper work, and waited in the waiting
>>  room
>> to do our duty.
>>
>>    After a few minutes, a gentleman came out and requested that we follow
>> him to his office.  I am assuming that this gentleman was some kind of a
>> manager.  After entering his office, he politely informed us that he had
>> spoken to his corporate office, and learned that they currently had no
>> policy in place to assure my safety in the case of an emergency, so
>> unfortunately they did not allow blind people to donate blood.  He then
>> turned to my wife, who is sighted but like many middle-aged people, wears
>> reading glasses.  The gentleman went on to explain that unless my wife
>> went
>> home to retrieve her reading glasses and thereby demonstrating that she
>> was
>> not blind, they also would not allow her to donate.  I politely explained
>> that the corporate office should be aware that their company policy
>>  violated
>> Federal anti-discrimination laws, and they did not have the legal luxury
>> of
>> determining which laws they were, or were not prepared to follow.  The
>> gentleman told me that he understood, but that he had to comply with his
>> corporate office's instructions to not allow the blind to donate blood.
>>
>>    This situation came as a bit of surprise to me.  Of course most of us
>> blind folks are use to vague and concealed discrimination, but I was
>> caught
>> off guard to face such an open and obvious demonstration of one's civil
>> rights being disregarded.  It was rather shocking to be directly told by 
>> a
>> business, that they did not want the blind!
>>
>>
>> Your Brother in Christ,
>> Pastor James Kelm
>> True Hope Church of Duluth
>> Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
>> Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
>> Phone: 218-727-4186
>>
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