[Blindtlk] To Cane or Not To Cane?

Sun Feb 27 21:57:14 UTC 2011

Jessica,

When I'm walking with a sighted person, no matter who it is, I always have 
my cane in my right hand and still use it, some.  There have been too many 
times when the sighted person wasn't paying attention to my right side and I 
get run into something, or I'm not paying attention and miss a step down. 
So, continuing to use my cane is a big help to me.

Although holding hands with John is nice, maybe you would explain to him 
that it doesn't really give you the information you need when being guided 
by him.  Explain how taking his arm would provide better information for you 
to follow.

You'll need to work with the people you travel with.  But, I don't think you 
should give up your cane.

Cindy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jessica Kostiw" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "'Pamela Allen'" 
<pallen at lcb-ruston.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] To Cane or Not To Cane?

Hello List,
This is Jessica Kostiw.  I have been on this list for quite a while,
but do not post very often.  I am hoping to get some good advice on an issue
that I am sure we have all faced.

I am a Louisiana Center for the Blind graduate, and well appreciate the
important of the travel skills I acquired there.
If you are like me though, the significant majority of your time is spent
with other sighted people.  My longtime boyfriend Jon is sighted.  He has
actually purchased a cane from the NFB and wants to go under sleep shades to
see what it is like.  The thing is on the one hand he is very supportive,
but more and more when we are together in a store or something would very
much rather that I just take his hand.  He says it's quicker and makes more
sense, but I want to be able to be independent.  I don't see why he can't
just walk by me and give me directions or something.  When we do that
though, he says he feels like he is just calling a dog.  He may as well ring
a cowbell.  He can't keep up chatter all the time and becomes harder for me
to follow.  People give dirty looks like "why isn't that guy helping that
blind lady?"  Part of me understands what he is saying, I have heard the
same arguments from my mom.  My sister is so impatient and always just
insists that I take her elbow.  I live in Virginia.  There is no public
transportation where I live, and I am concerned that always being around
sighted people with this attitude will eventually cause me to lose my
skills.  This Email is focusing on the situation with Jon only because I am
concerned about our future.  We are definitely working towards marriage and
children and all that and I don't want to feel like I am completely
dependent on my husband and can't equally contribute when we take any future
children out in public.  We have already agreed that we will live in an area
with good public transportation so I won't feel dependent and can do things
on my own, but again what about when we are together?   Do I have to
sacrifice my independence to make it easier on him?

Any incite would be greatly appreciated!!
Jessica
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Judd
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:31 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws

I tried accessing the facebook lite site, and it worked.
http://lite.facebook.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws

Not sure what has happened but we discovered the same thing today as well.
Perhaps it is something that will be fixed soon. My daughter and I tried
everything to get it to let us click on things but it would not. Not sure
what's up!
Bonnie

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of humberto
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:35 PM
To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org; nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: blindTlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws

---- Original Message ------
From: Michelle Abadia <michelle.abadia at verizon.net
Subject: [PM] Facebook with jaws
Date sent: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:40:45 -0500

Hi.

I apologize for the unrelated topic.
I've been using Facebook successfully on my windows 7 laptop,
using (www.m.facebook.com), which I think our litt moderator
suggested because (www.facebook.com) wasn't very accessible with
jaws.
This morning, I come to find that now, m.facebook.com isn't
accessible either! Everything is preceeded by "same page link",
and when I click on something or try to write a message, the
system won't let me. This happened overnight, because I was able
to work on Facebook just 24 hours ago.

Could someone please give me some assistance with this off list
at
Michelle.abadia at verizon.net
?

Thanks so much in advance.

Michelle Abadia
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