[Blindtlk] To Cane or Not To Cane?

Mon Feb 28 00:30:41 UTC 2011

I do the same thing.  I use my cane while I am holding someone's elbow, just 
because of the fact that I don't feel I can trust the person I am walking 
with 100 percent.
Sarah
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] To Cane or Not To Cane?

HI Jessica, I have long struggled with this  need for me to  master my
 independence.  I think that  it's rather personal and situational.
there are times when  I'm with someone, and I'll hold on to their
elbow because  I'm with them, would like to maintain a conversation
with them, and  would like to spend my energy on talking than
focusing on them,  and focusing onhow to cane, were to  can and  those
types of things.  I think that you can talk to someone, hold on to the
elbow, and still  use your cane.   I still do this, and  pay attention
to where I am going.  There are still many oppertunities to travel by
yourself, it's doubtful you'll lose that skill if you use it to  run
your own arrends, do your own things.

  Hope that helps,
  darian

On 2/27/11, Marion Gwizdala <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Jessica,
>     when I was dating my ex-wife who is sighted, she would always 
> encourage
> me to put my cane away when we were together and just hold her hand. One 
> day
> we were walking through the mall and she turned to look at something. Just
> as she did, she ran me into one of those metal signs a business had parked
> in the walkway. It fell to the ground with a crash that was probably heard
> from one end of the mall to the other. "That's why I use my cane!" I told
> her as I took it out of my pocket and unfolded it. She never complained
> about me using my cane after that.
>     I would still hold her hand and she would give me direction through 
> our
> hand-holding but I used my cane in conjunction with her sighted guide. 
> Still
> today, whenever I use sighted guide, I always use my cane too!
>
> fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jessica Kostiw" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "'Pamela Allen'"
> <pallen at lcb-ruston.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 4:41 PM
> Subject: [Blindtlk] To Cane or Not To Cane?
>
>
>> Hello List,
>> This is Jessica Kostiw.  I have been on this list for quite a while,
>> but do not post very often.  I am hoping to get some good advice on an
>> issue
>> that I am sure we have all faced.
>>
>> I am a Louisiana Center for the Blind graduate, and well appreciate the
>> important of the travel skills I acquired there.
>> If you are like me though, the significant majority of your time is spent
>> with other sighted people.  My longtime boyfriend Jon is sighted.  He has
>> actually purchased a cane from the NFB and wants to go under sleep shades
>> to
>> see what it is like.  The thing is on the one hand he is very supportive,
>> but more and more when we are together in a store or something would very
>> much rather that I just take his hand.  He says it's quicker and makes
>> more
>> sense, but I want to be able to be independent.  I don't see why he can't
>> just walk by me and give me directions or something.  When we do that
>> though, he says he feels like he is just calling a dog.  He may as well
>> ring
>> a cowbell.  He can't keep up chatter all the time and becomes harder for
>> me
>> to follow.  People give dirty looks like "why isn't that guy helping that
>> blind lady?"  Part of me understands what he is saying, I have heard the
>> same arguments from my mom.  My sister is so impatient and always just
>> insists that I take her elbow.  I live in Virginia.  There is no public
>> transportation where I live, and I am concerned that always being around
>> sighted people with this attitude will eventually cause me to lose my
>> skills.  This Email is focusing on the situation with Jon only because I
>> am
>> concerned about our future.  We are definitely working towards marriage
>> and
>> children and all that and I don't want to feel like I am completely
>> dependent on my husband and can't equally contribute when we take any
>> future
>> children out in public.  We have already agreed that we will live in an
>> area
>> with good public transportation so I won't feel dependent and can do
>> things
>> on my own, but again what about when we are together?   Do I have to
>> sacrifice my independence to make it easier on him?
>>
>> Any incite would be greatly appreciated!!
>> Jessica
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Chris Judd
>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:31 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws
>>
>> I tried accessing the facebook lite site, and it worked.
>> http://lite.facebook.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws
>>
>>
>> Not sure what has happened but we discovered the same thing today as 
>> well.
>> Perhaps it is something that will be fixed soon. My daughter and I tried
>> everything to get it to let us click on things but it would not. Not sure
>> what's up!
>> Bonnie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of humberto
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:35 PM
>> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org; nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: blindTlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] [PM] Facebook with jaws
>>
>> ---- Original Message ------
>> From: Michelle Abadia <michelle.abadia at verizon.net
>> Subject: [PM] Facebook with jaws
>> Date sent: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:40:45 -0500
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I apologize for the unrelated topic.
>> I've been using Facebook successfully on my windows 7 laptop,
>> using (www.m.facebook.com), which I think our litt moderator
>> suggested because (www.facebook.com) wasn't very accessible with
>> jaws.
>> This morning, I come to find that now, m.facebook.com isn't
>> accessible either! Everything is preceeded by "same page link",
>> and when I click on something or try to write a message, the
>> system won't let me. This happened overnight, because I was able
>> to work on Facebook just 24 hours ago.
>>
>> Could someone please give me some assistance with this off list
>> at
>> Michelle.abadia at verizon.net
>> ?
>>
>> Thanks so much in advance.
>>
>> Michelle Abadia
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