[Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do

Fri Jul 8 21:35:14 UTC 2011

I agree! I don't think the person who originally made that 
comment (I can't remember who it
was) didn't mean that you sit around and wait for God to do 
everything for you, but rather that you shouldn't (in that 
person's opinion) try to control everything yourself, and let 
God, or whoever your higher power is, to do some of the work.
 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:05:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind 
feels like I do

In my opinion, if God wants two people to meet, it will happen, 
but
that doesn't mean just sitting around and waiting for something 
to
fall into your lap.  You could fall into that trap in so many
situations.  You could even take it to such an extreme that you 
could
sit in your house wasting away for all your life because you 
believe
that someday a cure will come for your blindness in the form of 
some
divine intervention.  So while I don't have anything against 
anyone's
religious beliefs, I do believe that in order to make something
happen, you have to get the ball rolling on your own terms.  The 
rest
will follow.

On 7/4/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Exactly, David.  I agree with this.
 I don't  want to be really religious here or change the subject 
matter to an
 off-topic state, but, this brings me to a story that tries to 
tell just
 exactly what you've said in your "I thought he helped those who 
helped
 themselves" statement:

      one man was cruising on a boat by himself across the ocean.  
Suddenly,
 the boat crashes and sinks, living nothing but the man sinking 
there by
 himself.  His only hope is that God is going to save his life 
and god would
 be the only one to save him because he was alone in the ocean 
trying to
 float alive.  One larger ship approaches him and the people on 
the ship asked
 him, "do you need help? Come on, we can save you, just hop on." 
The man's
 response was, "No, god is going to save me."
 Later on, the man was still sinking in the water and despite all 
the waves
 that were coming still he was thinking that god will save him.  
Suddenly
 another ship bigger than the first one stages up to the lonely 
man and the
 captain asks him: "come on! We'll save you! Just jump in!" but 
then the
 man's response was once again, "No, No, god will save me, don't 
worry god
 will save me."
 The ship went away, and the man was to the point of dying, when 
he keeps
 thinking "god, please, save me.  Why don't you do it now."
 So another boat--probably the size of his--came to him, the 
person on the
 boat asks him "come in, I'll save you." But the man kept 
responding, "No,
 no, god is going to save me, god is the only one that is going 
to save me,
 don't worry."
 The boat hurried away, and minutes later the man couldn't resist 
no more and
 died.
 When the man was with god in heaven, he asked him: "god, why 
didn't you save
 me? I thought you were going to save me." then god's response 
was, "Hey, I
 sent you three boats, but you did not get on either one of them.  
Sorry."

 --Source: MY MOM SHARED THIS STORY WITH ME.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf Of David Andrews
 Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:37 PM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind 
feels like I do

 I thought he "helped those who helped themselves."  Putting 
matters
 into somebody elses hands, even God, seems to me to be an excuse 
for
 doing nothing.

 Dave

 02:09 PM 7/4/2011, you wrote:
exactly
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Fortin"
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Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind 
feels like I
 do

i'm with you on that, not doing the dating webistes, God will
either bring someone in to my life or not.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki Wunderlich"
 <nikki0222 at gmail.com
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind 
feels like I
 do

I've never went on those dating websites, because my family says
they're too dangerous, and I don't want to have world war 3 on my
hands because of doing something like that.  I am just either 
going
to have to meet the person I date in person some how, or stay 
single.
Nikki Wunderlich
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Kostiw"
<jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind 
feels like I
 do

Dana,
First, like everyone has said, your X-husband sounds like a 
complete
 dirt
bag!  You and I have sort of crossed paths over the years, and 
from what
 I
recall it sounds like you are better off without him.
As far as the dating cites are concerned, after reading your post 
one
question jumps out in my mind.  In your profiles, do you state 
right out
that you are blind?  If so, how much of a focus is it?  The
stereo types you
stated are unfortunately true, but I do not think they are as 
across the
board as you may think.  A little over a year and a half ago I 
met my
boyfriend Jon on Match.com.  At the time I distinctly recall 
toying with
whether or not to state anything on the page about my blindness.  
My
 family
said I should, after all I could immediately weed out the
jerks.  Since many
people do prejudge, I elected not to.  I am not blind Jessica, I 
am
 Jessica
who happeneds to be blind.  To weed out jerks, I instead 
mentioned my
 being
a Christian and the church I belonged to.  The majority of my 
profile
focused on my interest in physical fitness, reading, and such.  
With
 dating
sites you talk and email to a number of different people.  I 
wasn't on
 the
site to educate everyone and their brother on blindness.  Threw 
the
conversations and interaction I was able to weed out the guys 
that I
 really
didn't see any chemistry with.  I didn't tell all of them I was 
blind
 until
we developed a rapport.  By the time I did tell them, I had 
somewhat of
 an
idea of their character.  With Jon specifically, I remember
slipping in that
the Labrador picture in my profile was actually my former guide 
dog.

As I write, Jon is waiting for me to help him with some weeding, 
so I
 have
to wrap this up.  I have a lot to say on this issue though, and 
would be
happy to talk to you in more detail.  There are a few points that 
I
 would
like to make though before I close.  First, with all do respect, 
I am
wondering if the frustration and defeat that you expressed in 
your
 message
is also coming through in your dating interaction.  I joined 
match
 because
at the time I was working in a cubicle in an office with all
married people.
(It is not a good idea to date people at work anyway.)  I went 
into it
 with
the attitude of possibly meeting someone to date, but also just
to meet some
nice people and see where things go.  If nothing happened, I
would have some
funny stories to tell friends.  I was on Match for two months
when I started
talking to Jon.  Today, we are happier than ever.  We are an 
active
 regular
couple.  When I told him I was blind, he really didn't care.  It 
was
 like
"Okay, tell me if I offend you or you need anything....  let's go
kayaking."

In closing, as the commercial states, one in every five couples 
today
 meets
on line.  Of course you have to be safe, but if you go in with 
decent
expectations how is it any different than walking into a bar and 
meeting
someone?  Just meet in a public place the first time you do meet
and be sure
to have an escape route if the person is not who you thought.

Happy Dating!
Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 On
Behalf Of Dana
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:01 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels 
like I do

I honestly get so frustrated from time to time as I have tried 
every
 dating
site I can think of on the internet, paid for them and most often
 sighted
guys don't give me one second glance.
I have a college education and work full time as well which 
defies a lot
 of
the statistics of the employment rate among the blind, and I 
can't seem
 to
either find a  blind person who is as independent as myself or a 
sighted
person who doesn't feel that blind people are in need of being 
taken
 care
of.
I surefire wish there were something we all could do in all 
honesty to
 show
the world that it is not a care taker we need it is an equal 
partner.
Dana

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