[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
Michelle Medina
michellem86 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 4 19:09:02 UTC 2011
Lol! It could be titled the top 10 most shocking *or dumb, or
whatever* questions we've been asked.
On 3/4/11, Michelle Medina <michellem86 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lol David, love that!
>
> On 3/4/11, David Evans <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have had my share of "How do you" questions in my life.
>> I have been asked how do I drive and get around as an example. I have
>> answered many times that I just roll the passenger side window down and
>> drag
>> my cane tip along the curb. Curb feelers are legal you know."
>>
>> I have kidded that I have a guide dog that is cross bread with a
>> greyhound
>> and runs along side the car on the drivers side when I drive on the
>> freeway.
>>
>> I have had a guy ask me how I use that cane to find my way around and I
>> joked that it works like a "divining rod" to find my way to where I want
>> to
>> go by smelling where other people have walked. An assistant to Doctor
>> Carl
>> Sagan, from the Nova TV show, once ask me how I knew where I was going
>> and
>> how I knew when I arrived. I teased him by saying that it was simple
>> physics. I just followed a path where nothing got in my way and I
>> stopped
>> when something did. He said that he thought that was logical.
>>
>> I tend to give smart lick answers to such questions, but at most times
>> give
>> people a good straight answer with the logic behind it depending on the
>> person and my mood.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack
>> Former Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer and builder of the Lunar
>> Rovers
>> and the F-117 Stealth Fighter
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>
>>
>>> OMG!!!! Depending on how one looked at that, it'd be either hilarious
>>> or not so hilarious *say the person who was asked that question is
>>> super sensitive about the fact that they can't drive* for example.
>>> Again, I am stunned!
>>>
>>> On 3/4/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have actually had that question too. Yesterday I think topped that
>>>> though.
>>>> I was at my college, walking with my guide dog. I mean actually holding
>>>> on
>>>> to the harness handle and all. I got a bit lost, or turned around. And
>>>> stopped to ask directions. So a nice lady started to walk the way I
>>>> did.
>>>> So
>>>> here I am walking with my guide, can't see a bit in the world, and she
>>>> asks
>>>> me if I can drive? Oh and my guide dog has a sign on it saying, I am a
>>>> working dog do not pet. My harness says Seeing eye. Hello? LOL
>>>>
>>>> I was very polite, but thought afterwards, wow. Hope she wasn't a
>>>> professor
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Jeanette Fortin
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 AM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>>
>>>> WELL I have had folks ask me who cooks for my kids and how much help do
>>>> i
>>>> have come in to help, none, when we lived on the island we had a maid
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>> was in support of the local islanders who needed work on the island to
>>>> support families, i also homeschooled my kids and folks couldn't
>>>> imagine
>>>> how
>>>>
>>>> a blind person could teach anything, really?
>>>> just amazing, jeanette
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:11 AM
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I went to see a dermatologist once who said, You're really clean! Who
>>>>>bathes you?" I expressed my dismay that a well educated person like a
>>>>>doctor would ask such an offensively stereotypical question, as I took
>>>>>out
>>>>>my business card and handed it to him.Then I asked him "Who bathes
>>>>> you?"
>>>>>He
>>>>
>>>>>apologized profusely, sharing that he understands how I feel because he
>>>>>has
>>>>
>>>>>a clubbed foot! There's no accounting for convoluted logic! In the
>>>>> words
>>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>>Archie Bunker, "That's the kind of straight thinking we need nowadays!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have been absolutely furious!!!! In fact, I must confess, I may
>>>>>> have accidentally *purposely* stabbed her hand or arm as my food was
>>>>>> spinning by.
>>>>>> Chelle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/11, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>>>>>> When I was a kid in Oregon, most blind children were treated at the
>>>>>>> University of Oregon Medical School. Being an RLF (now ROP,
>>>>>>> nothing's
>>>>>>> changed but the initials) child, all the interns took a look at me.
>>>>>>> Looking
>>>>>>> back, I don't remember any of them introducing themselves, but they
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> loved working with the pressure gage and the slit lamp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My best medical story, though, comes from eye surgery in the
>>>>>>> seventies.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was in the hospital after surgery, and was getting my first real
>>>>>>> meal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> know that there was something on my chart that said I was blind,
>>>>>>> since,
>>>>>>> after all, the bandages over the eyes wouldn't give any clue. The
>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>> staff came in, and put the food tray on the table over the bed, and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> thanked her, assuming our interaction was done. She looked at me,
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> my wife who was in the room, and turned the tray 180 degrees. I
>>>>>>> thanked
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> again. She looked back at me, back at my wife and turned it again.
>>>>>>> After
>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> third iteration, I confess I lost my patience and asked if I was
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> supposed to use a fork to stab something as it went by.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's funny now, but frustrating then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Mc Gee
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've read with interest all the posts about experiences
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> health care providers' offices. I have some experiences I can throw
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> the mix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First, I'll say that, because the cause of my blindness
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> albinism, I had a unique appearance that was impossible to hide when
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> younger. I was a student at the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving
>>>>>>> School
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> ten years and, during that time, I went to the University of Iowa
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> eye care-at least "they" called it eye care. It was more on the
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> eye study because every med student, intern, and ophthalmology
>>>>>>> resident
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> to come examines the "albinotic eye" before I received any low
>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>> glasses, etc. that would actually improve what little vision I have.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>> like a zoo or circus animal on display because I was a condition
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> a person. It hurt a lot and I'm not simply talking about all the
>>>>>>> lights
>>>>>>> shining in my eyes, but also the emotional pain it caused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an adult I've had some doctors who have been very
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> some who haven't. The number of nice ones directly correlates with
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> various degrees-all doctors and staffs are nice now that I put
>>>>>>> "Attorney" on
>>>>>>> their intake forms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, when I first came to Des Moines in 1976, visited a
>>>>>>> neurologist because of migraine headaches. He spent more time
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>> at my
>>>>>>> eyes than he did taking a history of the headaches. I went to one
>>>>>>> doctor
>>>>>>> whose office staff handed the intake form to my driver too complete
>>>>>>> until I
>>>>>>> complained. One time, when I went to an orthopedic surgeon's office
>>>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> expert consult to prepare for trial, I was greatly surprised that
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>> fifteen minutes asking about my vision instead of my client's
>>>>>>> treatment.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> simply told her that, if she billed for those extra minutes, she
>>>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>>>> paid, because I would deduct that amount of time from my bill back
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> client. She didn't argue and even apologized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm fortunate that I currently have a sensitive, caring
>>>>>>> group of
>>>>>>> physicians. I'll have to admit, though, that the trauma of the past
>>>>>>> plus my
>>>>>>> attorney's skepticism is quite hard to eliminate when I meet a new
>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Iowa Department for the Blind has been doing a PR
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>> with health care providers to educate them with the hope that fewer
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> will have unpleasant experiences when they need help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing if any of you, like me,
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> treated as a medical oddity at any time.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mary L. McGee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>>>>>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
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>>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
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> "FUCK YOU FOR KILLING ME!!!!" SHAUN MORGAN - "NEEDLES"
> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
> "BLEED THE FREAK"
>
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"THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
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