[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
Michelle Medina
michellem86 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 5 02:29:20 UTC 2011
I can definitely see that Raquel! These are the people you expect to
know certain things, especially since they hold medical degrees!
*sigh* Not to mention, it ovbiously shows she hasn't learned anything
from you having been her friend for so long.
Bonnie,
That would get frustrating for me! I commend you for being able to put
up with it!
On 3/4/11, Bonnie Lucas <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, here is my story! Once at an activity, a woman asked, "Who fixes your
> hair? It always looks so nice." I responded that since I can never get my
> husband to do it that I pretty much had to do it myself! I actually think
> she thought my teenage daughters did it for me. Granted, the one daughter
> who liked fixing hair would occasionally do it for her own satisfaction.
> Like most of you, people have told my very young children, less than eight,
> to "take good care of your mother." I did not hesitate to say that it was my
> job to take care of them and not the other way around. Needless to say,
> those are not usually the folks I become close friends with. Unfortunately,
> some folks have even told my close friends that it is nice that they were
> friends with me. One friend said that we were friends because we got along
> and not because she was being nice. She is the kind of friend that everyone
> should have! Going to meet her in HI in a month!
> Bonnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Raquel Vega
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>
> I felt let down. I mean I'd guess if I hadn't known her, I'd just guess she
> was misinformed, but I'd known this woman for about 10 years. Logically I
> know that sometimes doesn't mean anything, but still felt let down. She to
> is a doctor, O BG Y N.
> Avon products:
> Raquel Vega
> e-mail
> Diva_bear at pacbell.net
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:06 PM
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>
>> Definitely Raquel! I to plan to have a baby, irrespective of what anyone
>> thinks!
>>
>> On 3/4/11, Raquel Vega <diva_bear at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> Oh no, I get all kind of responses when I tell folks I wanna have a
>>> baby. It's sad, most are good people, just misinformed I'd guess. I had a
>>> friend I knew for years, I thought she really didn't think anything of my
>>> blindness. Then I talked about having babies. I told her of a friend I
>>> knew
>>> and she was relived when I said her boyfriend was sighted. She asked
>>> using
>>> this example. What if you're out in the yard, and a wasp comes and stings
>>> the baby, I told her that could have easily happened to a sighted parent.
>>> She didn't even acknowledge what I'd said.
>>> It's sad and frustrating.
>>> Raquel
>>> Avon products:
>>> Raquel Vega
>>> e-mail
>>> Diva_bear at pacbell.net
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:48 AM
>>> To: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>>> List"
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>
>>>> and I thought I had heard it all. My oh my.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Jeanette Fortin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WELL I have had folks ask me who cooks for my kids and how much help do
>
>>>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>> have come in to help, none, when we lived on the island we had a maid
>>>>> but
>>>>>
>>>>> it was in support of the local islanders who needed work on the island
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> support families, i also homeschooled my kids and folks couldn't
>>>>> imagine
>>>>> how a blind person could teach anything, really?
>>>>> just amazing, jeanette
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Gwizdala"
>>>>> <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:11 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I went to see a dermatologist once who said, You're really clean! Who
>>>>>> bathes you?" I expressed my dismay that a well educated person like a
>>>>>> doctor would ask such an offensively stereotypical question, as I took
>>>>>> out my business card and handed it to him.Then I asked him "Who bathes
>>>>>> you?" He apologized profusely, sharing that he understands how I feel
>>>>>> because he has a clubbed foot! There's no accounting for convoluted
>>>>>> logic! In the words of Archie Bunker, "That's the kind of straight
>>>>>> thinking we need nowadays!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>>> Marion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Medina"
>>>>>> <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd have been absolutely furious!!!! In fact, I must confess, I may
>>>>>>> have accidentally *purposely* stabbed her hand or arm as my food was
>>>>>>> spinning by.
>>>>>>> Chelle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/3/11, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> When I was a kid in Oregon, most blind children were treated at the
>>>>>>>> University of Oregon Medical School. Being an RLF (now ROP,
>>>>>>>> nothing's
>>>>>>>> changed but the initials) child, all the interns took a look at me.
>>>>>>>> Looking
>>>>>>>> back, I don't remember any of them introducing themselves, but they
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> loved working with the pressure gage and the slit lamp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My best medical story, though, comes from eye surgery in the
>>>>>>>> seventies. I
>>>>>>>> was in the hospital after surgery, and was getting my first real
>>>>>>>> meal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> know that there was something on my chart that said I was blind,
>>>>>>>> since,
>>>>>>>> after all, the bandages over the eyes wouldn't give any clue. The
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> staff came in, and put the food tray on the table over the bed, and
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> thanked her, assuming our interaction was done. She looked at me,
>>>>>>>> looked at
>>>>>>>> my wife who was in the room, and turned the tray 180 degrees. I
>>>>>>>> thanked her
>>>>>>>> again. She looked back at me, back at my wife and turned it again.
>>>>>>>> After the
>>>>>>>> third iteration, I confess I lost my patience and asked if I was
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> supposed to use a fork to stab something as it went by.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's funny now, but frustrating then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Mc Gee
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've read with interest all the posts about experiences
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> health care providers' offices. I have some experiences I can throw
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> the mix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, I'll say that, because the cause of my blindness
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> albinism, I had a unique appearance that was impossible to hide when
>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> younger. I was a student at the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving
>>>>>>>> School
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> ten years and, during that time, I went to the University of Iowa
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>> eye care-at least "they" called it eye care. It was more on the
>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> eye study because every med student, intern, and ophthalmology
>>>>>>>> resident had
>>>>>>>> to come examines the "albinotic eye" before I received any low
>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>> glasses, etc. that would actually improve what little vision I have.
>>>>>>>> I felt
>>>>>>>> like a zoo or circus animal on display because I was a condition
>>>>>>>> rather than
>>>>>>>> a person. It hurt a lot and I'm not simply talking about all the
>>>>>>>> lights
>>>>>>>> shining in my eyes, but also the emotional pain it caused.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an adult I've had some doctors who have been very nice
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> some who haven't. The number of nice ones directly correlates with
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> various degrees-all doctors and staffs are nice now that I put
>>>>>>>> "Attorney" on
>>>>>>>> their intake forms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But, when I first came to Des Moines in 1976, visited a
>>>>>>>> neurologist because of migraine headaches. He spent more time
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at my
>>>>>>>> eyes than he did taking a history of the headaches. I went to one
>>>>>>>> doctor
>>>>>>>> whose office staff handed the intake form to my driver too complete
>>>>>>>> until I
>>>>>>>> complained. One time, when I went to an orthopedic surgeon's office
>>>>>>>> for an
>>>>>>>> expert consult to prepare for trial, I was greatly surprised that
>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>>> fifteen minutes asking about my vision instead of my client's
>>>>>>>> treatment. I
>>>>>>>> simply told her that, if she billed for those extra minutes, she
>>>>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>>>>> paid, because I would deduct that amount of time from my bill back
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> client. She didn't argue and even apologized.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm fortunate that I currently have a sensitive, caring
>>>>>>>> group of
>>>>>>>> physicians. I'll have to admit, though, that the trauma of the past
>>>>>>>> plus my
>>>>>>>> attorney's skepticism is quite hard to eliminate when I meet a new
>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Iowa Department for the Blind has been doing a PR
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> with health care providers to educate them with the hope that fewer
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> will have unpleasant experiences when they need help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing if any of you, like me, were
>>>>>>>> treated as a medical oddity at any time.
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mary L. McGee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>>>>>>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
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>> "FUCK YOU FOR KILLING ME!!!!" SHAUN MORGAN - "NEEDLES"
>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
>> "BLEED THE FREAK"
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