[Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes

Wed May 18 16:28:52 UTC 2011

Hi Dave,

Congratulations!

Gloria Whipple
Corresponding Secretary
Inland Empire chapter
nfb of WA

Cell: 509-475-4993

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 09:12
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes

Dear Diane,

What you say is true.
It does define just where we can choose to live, work and travel.
There is very little convenience in having any disability.
The next time, people in government want to be politically correct and 
change the title they use to tag us with, I vote for the permanently 
inconvenienced.
In the past we have been the Handicapped, then the Disabled, and then People

With Disabilities.  I think that the permanently inconvenienced describes 
our situation a whole lot better.
I do live in a nice area, with some of the best schools in my county and I 
am just within the 3/4 mile of a bus route.
I commute some 43 miles, as a crow flies, to where I work near the other end

of the county.
Lucky for me, my kids are grown, and my son just made me a grand dad this 
last weekend.
I am on SSDI and working under my earning cap so I am lucky in that way.
I thank God for what I have and hope he will give me a little more.

David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.

MV Transit Consumer Advocate
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes

> Excellent point Liz.  You know what is really sad, is that the transit 
> system almost dictates where we can live even within a major city.  My 
> family and I would like to look for another home now, but the nicer homes 
> that would best fit our needs are in the suburbs where the bus 
> transportation is either very sporadic or nonexistent.
>
> We want and need a  bigger home, within a better school district, but I am

> really afraid of moving somewhere where I will have to rely exclusively on

> para transit and the family vehicle.  I just don't think that it is wise 
> to make that move, but what do you do?
>
>
>
> Diane Graves
> Civil Rights Specialist
> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>
> Hello all,
>
> My apologies for jumping in so  late on this discussion.
>
> I live in Fort worth, Texas a sprawling city of over 750,000 people.
> Bus service is most efficient if one lives and works near the downtown 
> area
> which is true in my case.
>
> I chose to buy a home on a major bus line so that I would not have long
> waits and transfer times.
> Bus service becomes quite sporadic in the outer areas of the city. I use
> buses for going to work or for shopping trips to the SuperTarget and
> PetsMart near my home. I also take taxis frequently. I occasionally use
> paratransit when taking the bus somewhere isnt' practical or when a taxi
> would be too expensive.
> I believe that we need to be as independent as possible but also make use 
> of
> whatever transit system is gong to  best meet our needs at a particular
> time.
>
> Have a great day all.
>
> Liz
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Poire" <rpoire at comcast.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>
>
>> Hi David-- very excelent post.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Age is certainly one factor that effects people and their use of Public
>>> Transportation.
>>> 74% of
>>> all Blind people are over the age of 65 years.  That is why some many
>>> seniors are in our chapters and this number is growing.
>>> We also know that people who are age 75 have at least one disability and
>>> those over the age of 82 usually have two or more.
>>> One of the funny things is that some people do not recognize that they
>>> have a disability, when they do.
>>> I do think that this is a good thing as attitude is everything and if 
>>> you
>>> think you are disabled you are more likely to think about yourself as
>>> being disabled and less capable.
>>> There are some people who wear their disability like a badge and want
>>> every one around them to know it and cater to them and their problems.
>>> There are other folks who are disabled and try to hide it or from it and
>>> do not want to be labeled or recognized as a disabled person.
>>> Still others are disabled but do not talk about, announce it to the
>>> World, and quietly just do what they have to do to get along.
>>> This is why the NFB philosophy is so important in that it teaches us to
>>> try and think and act as if we do not have a disability, while at the
>>> same time accepting and recognizing that we have a disability, but that
>>> it is no big deal and that we are just as good as everyone else, just
>>> different like there are some people who are left handed, maybe have
>>> green eyes or red hair.
>>> We as NFB members must not let ourselves become smug, over confident ,
>>> cocky or take on a feeling of superiority over other people like
>>> ourselves.
>>> As NFB members we are both teachers and pupils at the same time.  We are
>>> here to learn from others and to teach others what we have learned at 
>>> the
>>> same time.
>>> We are all travelers along the same road.  Some of us are just at
>>> different points along that road, but we are all trying to get to the
>>> same destination.
>>> We must help each other as best we can.  We will learn from and teach
>>> each of those fellow travelers as we journey down that road.  We should
>>> treat each one of these travelers as we would wish to be treated.  If we
>>> do this we will help them and we will, given time change the World in 
>>> the
>>> process.
>>> My mission in life is not to judge others, but to leave this World in
>>> better shape than I found it and I could use some help.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>> MV Transit Consumer Advocate
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Nikki Wunderlich" <nikki0222 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> that is very true. Like I said before. If I had access to the fixed
>>>> route
>>>> bus system I'd use it in a hart beat, because it's cheaper than
>>>> paratransit,
>>>> but since I'd have to walk a very long block along the high way and
>>>> cross
>>>> it, I do not have access to the bus, so I use paratransit, and rely on
>>>> family and friends to give me a ride when I need one, other wise if the
>>>> place is close and safe enough to walk to I just walk.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely,
>>>> Nikki Wunderlich
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Marsha <marcatony at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>  Age must certainly also contribute to the choice.  It might be much
>>>>> easier
>>>>> for a younger person to make a number of transfers on a fixed route 
>>>>> but
>>>>> an
>>>>> older person might not be able to do this as easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> I thank you for the emails
>>>> nikki
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