[Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes

Wed May 18 16:40:57 UTC 2011

LOL I love this!  It is perfect.  So simple, yet so profound.

thank you!
Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes

>
> Dear Diane,
>
> What you say is true.
> It does define just where we can choose to live, work and travel.
> There is very little convenience in having any disability.
> The next time, people in government want to be politically correct and 
> change the title they use to tag us with, I vote for the permanently 
> inconvenienced.
> In the past we have been the Handicapped, then the Disabled, and then 
> People With Disabilities.  I think that the permanently inconvenienced 
> describes our situation a whole lot better.
> I do live in a nice area, with some of the best schools in my county and I 
> am just within the 3/4 mile of a bus route.
> I commute some 43 miles, as a crow flies, to where I work near the other 
> end of the county.
> Lucky for me, my kids are grown, and my son just made me a grand dad this 
> last weekend.
> I am on SSDI and working under my earning cap so I am lucky in that way.
> I thank God for what I have and hope he will give me a little more.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>
> MV Transit Consumer Advocate
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>
>
>> Excellent point Liz.  You know what is really sad, is that the transit 
>> system almost dictates where we can live even within a major city.  My 
>> family and I would like to look for another home now, but the nicer homes 
>> that would best fit our needs are in the suburbs where the bus 
>> transportation is either very sporadic or nonexistent.
>>
>> We want and need a  bigger home, within a better school district, but I 
>> am really afraid of moving somewhere where I will have to rely 
>> exclusively on para transit and the family vehicle.  I just don't think 
>> that it is wise to make that move, but what do you do?
>>
>>
>>
>> Diane Graves
>> Civil Rights Specialist
>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> 317-232-2647
>>
>> "It is service that measures success."
>> George Washington Carver
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:08 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> My apologies for jumping in so  late on this discussion.
>>
>> I live in Fort worth, Texas a sprawling city of over 750,000 people.
>> Bus service is most efficient if one lives and works near the downtown 
>> area
>> which is true in my case.
>>
>> I chose to buy a home on a major bus line so that I would not have long
>> waits and transfer times.
>> Bus service becomes quite sporadic in the outer areas of the city. I use
>> buses for going to work or for shopping trips to the SuperTarget and
>> PetsMart near my home. I also take taxis frequently. I occasionally use
>> paratransit when taking the bus somewhere isnt' practical or when a taxi
>> would be too expensive.
>> I believe that we need to be as independent as possible but also make use 
>> of
>> whatever transit system is gong to  best meet our needs at a particular
>> time.
>>
>> Have a great day all.
>>
>> Liz
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Poire" <rpoire at comcast.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>
>>
>>> Hi David-- very excelent post.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Age is certainly one factor that effects people and their use of Public
>>>> Transportation.
>>>> 74% of
>>>> all Blind people are over the age of 65 years.  That is why some many
>>>> seniors are in our chapters and this number is growing.
>>>> We also know that people who are age 75 have at least one disability 
>>>> and
>>>> those over the age of 82 usually have two or more.
>>>> One of the funny things is that some people do not recognize that they
>>>> have a disability, when they do.
>>>> I do think that this is a good thing as attitude is everything and if 
>>>> you
>>>> think you are disabled you are more likely to think about yourself as
>>>> being disabled and less capable.
>>>> There are some people who wear their disability like a badge and want
>>>> every one around them to know it and cater to them and their problems.
>>>> There are other folks who are disabled and try to hide it or from it 
>>>> and
>>>> do not want to be labeled or recognized as a disabled person.
>>>> Still others are disabled but do not talk about, announce it to the
>>>> World, and quietly just do what they have to do to get along.
>>>> This is why the NFB philosophy is so important in that it teaches us to
>>>> try and think and act as if we do not have a disability, while at the
>>>> same time accepting and recognizing that we have a disability, but that
>>>> it is no big deal and that we are just as good as everyone else, just
>>>> different like there are some people who are left handed, maybe have
>>>> green eyes or red hair.
>>>> We as NFB members must not let ourselves become smug, over confident ,
>>>> cocky or take on a feeling of superiority over other people like
>>>> ourselves.
>>>> As NFB members we are both teachers and pupils at the same time.  We 
>>>> are
>>>> here to learn from others and to teach others what we have learned at 
>>>> the
>>>> same time.
>>>> We are all travelers along the same road.  Some of us are just at
>>>> different points along that road, but we are all trying to get to the
>>>> same destination.
>>>> We must help each other as best we can.  We will learn from and teach
>>>> each of those fellow travelers as we journey down that road.  We should
>>>> treat each one of these travelers as we would wish to be treated.  If 
>>>> we
>>>> do this we will help them and we will, given time change the World in 
>>>> the
>>>> process.
>>>> My mission in life is not to judge others, but to leave this World in
>>>> better shape than I found it and I could use some help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>> MV Transit Consumer Advocate
>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Nikki Wunderlich" <nikki0222 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Paratransit Vs. fixed Routes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> that is very true. Like I said before. If I had access to the fixed
>>>>> route
>>>>> bus system I'd use it in a hart beat, because it's cheaper than
>>>>> paratransit,
>>>>> but since I'd have to walk a very long block along the high way and
>>>>> cross
>>>>> it, I do not have access to the bus, so I use paratransit, and rely on
>>>>> family and friends to give me a ride when I need one, other wise if 
>>>>> the
>>>>> place is close and safe enough to walk to I just walk.
>>>>>
>>>>> sincerely,
>>>>> Nikki Wunderlich
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Marsha <marcatony at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>  Age must certainly also contribute to the choice.  It might be much
>>>>>> easier
>>>>>> for a younger person to make a number of transfers on a fixed route 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> older person might not be able to do this as easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> I thank you for the emails
>>>>> nikki
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