[Blindtlk] Fwd: U.S. Representatives Stearns and BishopIntroduce Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act

T. Joseph Carter tjcarter at spiritsubstance.com
Fri Oct 14 04:31:17 UTC 2011 

Read his post again, he said Austin Lighthouse, not Chicago.  It's 
quite possible the Austin Lighthouse is deplorable in many ways.  But 
as you point out, we heard at convention how the Chicago Lighthouse 
has become a respectable place to work and now pays respectable and 
fair wages for fair and respectable work.

Joseph


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 06:12:47PM -0400, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>I agree completely, Joseph! I'm sorry,
>I was a little nervous when you talked about "trolling the list," 
>thinking it was my original post that you thought was trolling, which 
>was really only meant to circulate information.  I understand now.  
>In fact, I was taken aback when Nimer mentioned the Chicago 
>Lighthouse in a negative way.  If you went to national convention, 
>(and I didn't, unfortunately, I listened to all the general sessions 
>on the online stream) you may remember the presentations by the 
>current director of the Chicago Lighthouse, whose name is escaping me 
>at the moment, and by Jim Kesteloot, the past director of the 
>Lighthouse about how the employment opportunities and general 
>conditions of the lighthouses have changed for the better since the 
>NFB was founded.  In fact, Jim Kesteloot told of how his attitudes 
>about blindness and the way he directed the Lighthouse changed after 
>the NFB protested it back in the early 1980's.  You can also read 
>these presentations in the August/September Monitor.  All we want is 
>equal pay for equal work! I'm so shocked by this debate now that I 
>can't say any more.
>
>Chris
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "T.  Joseph Carter" <tjcarter at spiritsubstance.com
>To: gwunder at earthlink.net, Blind Talk Mailing List 
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:42:14 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: U.S.  Representatives Stearns and 
>BishopIntroduce Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>
>It's to suggest that some blind people out there don't deserve
>minimum wage.
>
>If they can actually do the work but don't, FIRE THEM and hire people
>who will.  If they are physically or mentally unable to do the job
>they've been assigned, then they're doing the wrong job.  It's that
>simple.  There are lots of people out there who could and would work
>if given the chance???and yet they remain unemployed because everyone
>agrees that working for two dollars an hour or less isn't worthwhile.
>
>But Lighthouses for the Blind have been changed from sub-minimum wage
>sweatshops into thriving (and competitively paying) employment
>opportunities before, and it's always been to the benefit of all when
>it's happened.  All it takes is good management, as with any other
>enterprise.
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 09:11:34AM -0500, Gary Wunder wrote:
>I am missing the point here.  Is the intent to applaud subminimum 
>wage?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of T.  Joseph Carter
>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:49 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: U.S.  Representatives Stearns and Bishop
>Introduce Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>
>Trollin'
>Trollin'
>Trollin' down the river??
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 04:24:39PM -0500, Nimer M.  Jaber, IC쨀 
>wrote:
>This is beautiful.  So now instead of paying below minimum wage 
>they'll
>pay minimum wage and it doesn't even have to be equal work, or what
>others are getting paid for the same profession.  Want an example? 
>Take
>a look at the Austin Light House for the Blind.
>
>thanks.
>
>On 04.10.2011, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>This is great news for the blind and for the Federation!! Please
>circulate
>this!
>
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>From: National Federation of the Blind <jfreeh at nfb.org
>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:35:38 -0400
>Subject: U.S.  Representatives Stearns and Bishop Introduce Fair 
>Wages
>for Workers with Disabilities Act
>To: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
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>U.S.  Representatives Stearns and Bishop Introduce
>Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>
>
>National Federation of the Blind Commends Action
>
>
>Washington, D.C.  (October 4, 2011): Congressman Cliff Stearns (R-FL) 
>and
>Congressman Tim Bishop (D-NY) today introduced the Fair Wages for
>Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 (H.R.  3086).  The bill would 
>phase
>out Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), which 
>allows
>employers holding special wage certificates to pay their workers with
>disabilities less than the federal minimum wage.
>
>Dr.  Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
>said: "The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act is a
>long-overdue effort to correct an injustice written into a law meant 
>to
>protect all American workers from abuse and exploitation.  Workers 
>with
>disabilities were excluded from the protections of the Fair Labor
>Standards Act because of the false belief that we cannot be as
>productive as Americans without disabilities.  Courage and creativity
>are required to replace the misguided benevolence that has 
>historically
>shaped policies toward people with disabilities with real opportunity
>for our equal employment and full participation in the workplace.  We
>applaud Representatives Stearns and Bishop and we hope that a
>significant majority of their colleagues possess the courage and
>creativity to end over seventy years of exploitation of people with
>disabilities."
>
>"Simple fairness and decency require that workers with disabilities
>receive equal pay for equal work," said Congressman Stearns.  "I am
>asking all of my colleagues to join me in this historic effort to end
>wage discrimination against workers with disabilities once and for 
>all."
>
>"Ensuring that Americans with disabilities receive equal pay for 
>equal
>work is more than a matter of basic fairness, it's a long-overdue
>acknowledgement of the value disabled Americans contribute to our
>workplaces every day," said Congressman Tim Bishop.  "I hope all of 
>my
>colleagues will support this bipartisan effort to correct over 
>seventy
>years of injustice."
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>For more information about the Fair Wages for Workers with 
>Disabilities
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