[Blindtlk] Some Questions About The Mac Computer

Tue Sep 6 09:48:08 UTC 2011

Webkit is the underlying engine that powers Safari.  Google Chrome 
uses the same engine, and updates much faster.  On 10.6 (I haven't 
made the jump to Lion on my iMac yet) I use Chrome pretty much to the 
exclusion of Safari.

On Lion that's another story.  Webkit can and will have bugs, it's 
the bleeding edge after all.  And as the engine develops by the UI 
shell program Safari lags behind it, Webkit introduces the occasional 
incompatibility and lost functionality.  This is because Webkit is 
looking to provide features of the next Safari version that aren't 
available yet.

Safari is quite pleasant to use on the Mac, though.  No application 
has had as much VoiceOver testing as Safari, so it works and works 
well.  New Macs do not come with a Flash plugin, but you could get 
one.  It's not accessible, though, and it's Adobe's fault that it 
isn't.  (Maybe Apple should not let you install it until it does?  
Ha.)  It seems to me that Google Chrome's Flash plugin (Google's own 
code) is better behaved than Adobe's in that regard.  I've found a 
couple of pages that don't work right with it, but more of them did 
than didn't, so it's worth a try.

Joseph

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 02:06:04PM -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>Well Keri,
>
>First, forget flash.  You are right in suspecting that Adobe and Apple don't play nice together at all.  The overall picture of browsing with Safari is quite a good one.  However, some of us Mac users have found that Web Kit is better.  Web kit is a browser which updates nightly with features which will eventually find their way in to Safari.  It's almost kind of like a sneak preview if you will.
>
>Now, as to all your quetsions about processor speed, honestly, it depends what you want to do.  Just browse, e-mail and word processing?  Save the money and get a lower processor speed.  Running ram  intense audio programs?  Go with the faster processor.
>
>Let's see now.  I tried the first site you gave me and I found I could read it just fine; although, it took a second or two to load.  I'd say this.  It really depends on how the pages are coded.  I'm not going to sit here and tell you that these pages are handled any better or worse than JAWS due to the fact that my windows lap top happends to be on the blink right now and so I cannot make a comparisum.  As for how to find text, Voice Over has a number of solutions for this.  My favorite is just to use Auto hot spots.  Kind of like automatic place markers in JAWS.  But, actually, that's not really a fair or even very accurate comparisum.  You can also use what's called the item chooser menu to find things very quickly.  Also, the search feature can be used.  Point is, you can move around very fast on a page.  Headings are navigated by using the command+OOption+h key combination.
>
>	Now, your last question first.  How easy or hard is it?  Well, I'd say to give yourself at least two or three weeks to get your teeth in to the thing.  Do yourself a huge favor.  Do not try to learn everything right away.  It just aint gonna happen.  YOu'l love it though.
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>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
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>barefootedray
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>On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Kerri Kosten wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> I need to get a new laptop and am trying to figure out whether to get
>> a mac or windows PC. I had some questions about using the mac.
>>
>> I've always been told a mac was much harder to learn and more
>> difficult to use than windows. However, my frend recently got a mac in
>> July and we went through the
>> voiceover practice mode and listened to the quick start guide
>> together. While going through this she let me play a little with
>> the mac.
>>
>> I realized that despite what I've previously been told the mac is
>> quite simple to use and though it is different from windows it isn't
>> that hard to use at all. I am now considering purchasing a mac but had
>> some questions before making a final decision.
>>
>> What is browsing Safari like on the mac? I love browsing the internet.
>> Is navigating the web with safari very complicated?
>>
>> I have not been able to play with my friends mac using safari but I
>> have listened to her use it while she has done research for her
>> homework.
>>
>> Once you click on a link on a webpage, how do you find the html/text
>> of the article to read it? Does voiceover automatically go to it and
>> then you interact with it? I love reading articles and such on the
>> internet.
>>
>> How does safari/voiceover handle webpages that are cluttered and have
>> lots of flash? I know the mac doesn't support/handle flash so how does
>> voiceover read these pages? Does voiceover read/handle these types of
>> webpages better than Jaws/windows does? Examples of pages I am
>> referring to are www.espn.com, www.cnnsi.com, or
>> www.usatoday.com/sports. I guess what I am trying to ask is how does
>> voiceover/safari handle webpages that are really cluttered, have lots
>> of flash, and have lots of links/headings?
>>
>> If I decide to get a mac should I go with the macbook pro or the
>> macbook air? What are the differences between the macbook pro and the
>> air?
>>
>> I was also looking at the apple store online last night and I noticed
>> that they have a 13-inch macbook pro with a I5 processor for $1200 and
>> a 13-inch macbook pro with I7 processor for $1500. Is there a big
>> difference particularly in speed between the I5 and I7 processors? Is
>> it worth the extra $300 for the higher I7 processor?
>>
>> Thanks so much! If I think of any more questions I'll post.
>>
>> Kerri
>>
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