[Blindtlk] braille printer questions

[Mike Freeman]

Steve:

It seems to me you're forgetting that companies have to amortize their costs
and that specialty parts often become *more* expensive over time, not less.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:59 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

Mike and Ben,

You guys know, I hope, that I agree with you that we have to realize that
the price of some of the devices we use can't simply be 
set based upon what we can afford.  There has to be enough profit to allow a
company to provide support and develop their next 
products.  However, I would raise a red flag that prices tend to be
supported by what rehabilitation will pay, and I sometimes 
wonder about products that are sold year after year using the same
technologies and mostly the same physical parts.  While I do 
not believe that the companies who provide our equipment are putting away
huge profits in Swiss bank accounts, I wonder if the 
support given by governments causes them to pay less attention to efficiency
and the design of cheaper products.  It should be 
acknowledged that prices have come down a good deal over the years for
braille printers, especially if you look at price 
reductions together with the decreasing value of the dollar over time, but
our small market together with the role of governments 
in purchasing a large percentage of the products produced makes this a
somewhat artificial model.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:22:41 -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:

>Amen, bro!

>Mike


>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:07 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>Mike and Listers,

>Of course we aren't *entitled* to these things, and they are expensive to
manufacture.  Indeed, folks need to make money. So, 
that's why there are loan programs made available through organizations like
ours and even private  assistive technology 
foundations. If we can only get blind people paid fair wages at Goodwill and
other places of employment, we can then pay off 
loans, etc.  (grin.)
> 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:12 PM
>To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>Whom *would* you suggest pay for it? People aren't producing these things
out of the goodness of their hearts!

>Mike


>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nikki
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:44 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>    That's what I did before posting my first post. I just can't believe
they want 4500 for it. How do these companies expect the 
blind who don't work, pay for something like this? Pretty obsurd, if you ask
me.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Nusbaum
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:12 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>Hi Judy and Nikki,

>A quick Google search for Enabling Technologies will probably get you the
information you need.

>Chris

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:25 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>Hello,

>I have the Juliet and love it; it really is a workhorse.  It's the Juliet
Pro 60.  Enabling technologies sells them, but don't 
have a phone number handy.

>Judy

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions


>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Why would I want a "discontinued" braille embosser? Does that mean 
>> they don't make spare parts to fix it if it were to break?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:44 PM
>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>
>> Hi Nikki,
>>
>> I have a Romeo Pro 50 at school and love it! I haven't heard the 
>> Juliet to say if it's any quieter than the Romeo, but the Romeo is very
good.
>>
>> If you find the Romeo and Juliet embossers to be too expensive, you 
>> may want to check to see if anybody has one of the discontinued 
>> embossers such as a Braille Blazer which they would be willing to 
>> sell. I have a Blazer here at home, but don't use it anymore, so I 
>> would probably do well to get rid of the thing, but I'm not sure if 
>> I'm going to sell it or just give it away to a blind person in the 
>> area, probably the family of one of our younger blind kids.
>>
>> I'm sorry I couldn't offer more information, but I hope this helps you.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Nikki
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:19 PM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>
>> Hi, Iâ¬"m looking for faster easier ways to braille other than using my 
>> Perkins. Iâ¬"ve heard of Romeo and Juliet, and how Juliet is quieter. 
>> Are they the best available product? Are they expensive? Am I able to 
>> find one inexpensively, and if so, where?
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can share.
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