[Blindtlk] braille printer questions

Fri Aug 24 19:20:29 UTC 2012

Brian,

Window-Eyes has a lease-to-own plan, but when I wasn't working, it would have been a real challenge to even make those payments.  
One still has to look at both income and expenses regardless of the level of assets, and one has to look at the complications of a 
loan program besides.  I just think you are making it sound too simple.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:09:56 -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:

>hi,

>spend what you like if you have 25mil in assets.
>i have heard of people that wish jaws had a monthly payment plan.
>there was no mention of buying the printer for her.
>the comment was related to the 3% loan being suspended due to decreased 
>assets and that's far cheaper than a deal from a bank.
>Bryan Schulz

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>Brian,

>Hey, I like your accounting, just look at income.  In that case, none of us 
>are strapped.  What a relief, I think I'll go shopping
>this weekend and blow my paycheck.  <smile>

>One problem is that often those who cannot afford technology are not in a 
>good position to repay long-term loans, either, and I'm
>just not sure that we should make sizeable grants to purchase equipment that 
>is not intended to lead to employment.    Often,
>equipment that will help in education or lead to employment will be 
>purchased by a rehabilitation agency, although I understand
>this isn't always the case.  I gather from your note that you think we 
>should buy equipment, that it should take priority over
>other programs.  Is that correct?  We could spend a fortune buying 
>equipment.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:29:56 -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:

>>hi,

>>what do you call strapped?
>>25mil doesn't sound strapped to me.
>>Bryan Schulz

>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:44 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions

>>> The nFB used to have a technology loan program. However, seeing as we are
>>> a bit strapped for funds ourselves -- we can carry on eesential programs
>>> but are cutting back a bit on the "electives" -- I believe it is in
>>> suspension for the moment.
>>>
>>> In the state of Washington, there's a foundation -- the Washington
>>> Assistive Technology Foundation (WATF) -- that makes loans to disabled
>>> persons. How many other states have such an outfit, I do not know. WATF's
>>> web address is <http://www.watf.org>.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:27 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>> The state won't pay for things needed unless needed for school or a job.
>>> What other organizations will help?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:07 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>> Mike and Listers,
>>>
>>> Of course we aren't *entitled* to these things, and they are expensive to
>>> manufacture.  Indeed, folks need to make money. So, that's why there are
>>> loan programs made available through organizations like ours and even
>>> private  assistive technology foundations. If we can only get blind 
>>> people
>>> paid fair wages at Goodwill and other places of employment, we can then
>>> pay
>>> off loans, etc.  (grin.)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:12 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>> Whom *would* you suggest pay for it? People aren't producing these things
>>> out of the goodness of their hearts!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Nikki
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:44 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>>    That's what I did before posting my first post. I just can't believe
>>> they want 4500 for it. How do these companies expect the blind who don't
>>> work, pay for something like this? Pretty obsurd, if you ask me.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>> Hi Judy and Nikki,
>>>
>>> A quick Google search for Enabling Technologies will probably get you the
>>> information you need.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Judy Jones
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have the Juliet and love it; it really is a workhorse.  It's the Juliet
>>> Pro 60.  Enabling technologies sells them, but don't have a phone number
>>> handy.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Why would I want a "discontinued" braille embosser? Does that mean they
>>>> don't make spare parts to fix it if it were to break?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:44 PM
>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nikki,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Romeo Pro 50 at school and love it! I haven't heard the Juliet
>>>> to
>>>> say if it's any quieter than the Romeo, but the Romeo is very good.
>>>>
>>>> If you find the Romeo and Juliet embossers to be too expensive, you may
>>>> want to check to see if anybody has one of the discontinued embossers
>>>> such
>>>> as a Braille Blazer which they would be willing to sell. I have a Blazer
>>>> here at home, but don't use it anymore, so I would probably do well to
>>>> get
>>>> rid of the thing, but I'm not sure if I'm going to sell it or just give
>>>> it
>>>> away to a blind person in the area, probably the family of one of our
>>>> younger blind kids.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry I couldn't offer more information, but I hope this helps you.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Nikki
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] braille printer questions
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Iâ¬"m looking for faster easier ways to braille other than using my
>>>> Perkins. Iâ¬"ve heard of Romeo and Juliet, and how Juliet is quieter. 
>>>> Are
>>>> they the best available product? Are they expensive? Am I able to find
>>>> one
>>>> inexpensively, and if so, where?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help you can share.
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