[Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of

Sat Aug 25 22:24:24 UTC 2012

Well, you want your cake and to eat it too, as 
they say.  Macs are generally bought either on 
line or from an Apple store.  While there are 
some dealers who resell them, who may give you a 
demo, you will pay list price or better.  If you 
live near an Apple store you can make an 
appointment and go in and they will show 
you.  Although I suspect they may not be that familiar with VoiceOver.

Dave

At 04:42 PM 8/25/2012, you wrote:
>    Ok. How can I get an in home demonstration 
> of a mac book pro? I'm a hands on learner. I 
> can't sit here and listen to pod casts of 
> people talking about a product. In order for me 
> to decide if it's something worth pursueing, I 
> would need to play with it. I'm not going to go 
> to Best Buy or another computer store to play. 
> I'd rather do it in the comfort of my home.
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:24 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>
>Well, first of all, A Mac mini is not a lap 
>top.  IF it's a lap top you want, I'd go with 
>the Mac book or Mac book pro.  That will set you 
>back a bit.  To find out more, go here.
>www.apple.com.
>
>The one I used is the fifteen inch Mac book Pro.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>Skype name:
>barefootedray
>
>On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   What is a Mac mini? Please fill me in on the 
>> features, compairing it to a regular laptop.
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:01 PM
>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>
>>Well, I don't know about more expensive.  You 
>>can get a Mac mini for just about $7.00 or 
>>so  and have Voice Over built in.  No more 
>>trying to get authorization keys, no more 
>>unstable behavior, no more exorbent prices that 
>>poor blind people can't pay.  But, there's 
>>another side to it. There's quite a learning 
>>curve.  Do not go in to this expecting the Mac 
>>to behave like windows.  It ain't 
>>gonna  happen.  It took me about two or three 
>>weeks to get my head around the concepts.  Very 
>>easy once you get used to it; but, be duely 
>>warned, it's not windows; and, you'll find 
>>yourself frustrated if you go in to this expecting windows-like behavior.
>>
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>>Skype name:
>>barefootedray
>>
>>On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I hear the Mac is a very good system, very 
>>>stable, but also more expensive than a Windows system.
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:32 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>>
>>>
>>>  Yeah. I didn't learn that until after the problems began.
>>>
>>>I started with Vista, then the laptop's mother board fried. I had to buy a
>>>new laptop, but Windows 7 was all you could find. When I tried loading the
>>>program, it wouldn't complete and say something like "this is an invalid
>>>platform. I was confused and didn't know what that meant. I called FS, they
>>>told me to just download the 64 byte version and it will work. So, that's
>>>what I'm running on now.
>>>
>>>I would like to know what some of you computer tech guys think of macs and
>>>the voice over. Is it better than windows OS and JAWS? Would it be smart to
>>>go in that direction? How well does it work?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:48 AM
>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>>
>>>JAWS 10 was never designed to work with Windows
>>>7.  This could be causing some of your problems.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 11:09 PM 8/24/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Ok. Phew! I'm not the only one experiencing 
>>>>issues with JAWS not responding. I think it's 
>>>>a number of things with my computer. #1. I 
>>>>have JAWS 10 on a windows 7 laptop. #2. I let 
>>>>a friend talk me into downloading all these 
>>>>different programs that will help speed up my 
>>>>computer. It helped, but started causing 
>>>>problems. It is quite frustrating to hear a 
>>>>chimed dialog box but nothing is said. The 
>>>>other day, as it was starting up, it had a 
>>>>starting windows repair window open saying 
>>>>not to turn off or restart the computer, but 
>>>>JAWS didn't say that. My 7 year old son read 
>>>>it to me and asked me if I wanted him to 
>>>>close the window. The computer would have 
>>>>been sitting here with that window open and I 
>>>>would have been getting upset and worried 
>>>>that my computer wasn't starting up properly. 
>>>>Right now, I have a window open for an adobe 
>>>>flash player update, but I don't know how to 
>>>>get to it. Occasionally JAWS will say, 
>>>>"update ready to be installed" and that's it. 
>>>>I have issues with Fire Fox as well. Every 
>>>>time I open it, I have to use the "alt tab" 
>>>>command twice in order to use the program. 
>>>>Sometimes, when I hit the applications key 
>>>>and scroll up to "send to," it will stop 
>>>>talking before or just after I reach it. IDK 
>>>>if there is an auto correct in Word 2007, 
>>>>but, I'll be typing along and I'll want to go 
>>>>back, re read what I just typed, and somehow 
>>>>my sentences were broken up and rearranged. 
>>>>It does it in my email as well. I use Windows 
>>>>Live Mail because I don't know how to use 
>>>>gmail on the site. -----Original Message----- 
>>>>From: Sherry Gomes Sent: Friday, August 24, 
>>>>2012 10:31 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' 
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired 
>>>>of I have that happen a lot with internet 
>>>>explorer 9, and it is the application, not 
>>>>jaws, because when everything starts up 
>>>>again, there's a message saying internet 
>>>>explorer stopped working. Outlook too, oh 
>>>>man, it hangs a lot, just freezes and locks 
>>>>up the whole darn computer, particularly 
>>>>first thing in the morning. -----Original 
>>>>Message----- From: 
>>>>blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Mike Freeman Sent: Friday, August 
>>>>24, 2012 8:50 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing 
>>>>List' Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm 
>>>>tired of Perhaps the application you're using 
>>>>has stopped responding for some reason. I 
>>>>find this happens periodically in windows 7. 
>>>>Mike -----Original Message----- From: 
>>>>blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Nikki Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 
>>>>7:27 PM To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org Subject: 
>>>>[Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of     In the 
>>>>middle of a task, command, or navigating the 
>>>>net, JAWS just stops talking, sometimes with 
>>>>a stutter or short muffle. IDK what itï¿½s 
>>>>doing or why, but there are times when I end 
>>>>up turning offf or restarting. Sometimes I 
>>>>can get JAWS back on. Any thoughts as to why 
>>>>this is happening? _______________________________________________