[Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of

Ray Foret Jr rforetjr at att.net
Sun Aug 26 05:33:49 UTC 2012 

I hate to pile on here; but, you know, in all this exchange, Mike seems to me to be absolutely correct.  I suspect that he, Dave and I are saying essentially the same thing; just saying it in different ways.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:21 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> "Can't" is a loaded work. Why not be honest with yourself and say "I'd
> rather not"? Or perhaps "I don't do as well ..."?
> 
> Seems to me you're selling yourself rather short in all this.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:43 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
> 
>    Ok. How can I get an in home demonstration of a mac book pro? I'm a
> hands on learner. I can't sit here and listen to pod casts of people talking
> about a product. In order for me to decide if it's something worth
> pursueing, I would need to play with it. I'm not going to go to Best Buy or
> another computer store to play. I'd rather do it in the comfort of my home.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:24 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
> 
> Well, first of all, A Mac mini is not a lap top.  IF it's a lap top you
> want, I'd go with the Mac book or Mac book pro.  That will set you back a
> bit.  To find out more, go here.
> www.apple.com.
> 
> The one I used is the fifteen inch Mac book Pro.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  What is a Mac mini? Please fill me in on the features, compairing it 
>> to a regular laptop.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:01 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>> 
>> Well, I don't know about more expensive.  You can get a Mac mini for 
>> just about $7.00 or so  and have Voice Over built in.  No more trying 
>> to get authorization keys, no more unstable behavior, no more exorbent 
>> prices that poor blind people can't pay.  But, there's another side to it.
>> There's quite a learning curve.  Do not go in to this expecting the 
>> Mac to behave like windows.  It ain't gonna  happen.  It took me about 
>> two or three weeks to get my head around the concepts.  Very easy once 
>> you get used to it; but, be duely warned, it's not windows; and, 
>> you'll find yourself frustrated if you go in to this expecting
> windows-like behavior.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I hear the Mac is a very good system, very stable, but also more 
>>> expensive than a Windows system.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah. I didn't learn that until after the problems began.
>>> 
>>> I started with Vista, then the laptop's mother board fried. I had to 
>>> buy a new laptop, but Windows 7 was all you could find. When I tried 
>>> loading the program, it wouldn't complete and say something like 
>>> "this is an invalid platform. I was confused and didn't know what 
>>> that meant. I called FS, they told me to just download the 64 byte 
>>> version and it will work. So, that's what I'm running on now.
>>> 
>>> I would like to know what some of you computer tech guys think of 
>>> macs and the voice over. Is it better than windows OS and JAWS? Would 
>>> it be smart to go in that direction? How well does it work?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:48 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>> 
>>> JAWS 10 was never designed to work with Windows 7.  This could be 
>>> causing some of your problems.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> At 11:09 PM 8/24/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Ok. Phew! I'm not the only one experiencing issues with JAWS not 
>>>> responding. I think it's a number of things with my computer. #1. I 
>>>> have JAWS 10 on a windows 7 laptop. #2. I let a friend talk me into 
>>>> downloading all these different programs that will help speed up my 
>>>> computer. It helped, but started causing problems. It is quite 
>>>> frustrating to hear a chimed dialog box but nothing is said. The 
>>>> other day, as it was starting up, it had a starting windows repair 
>>>> window open saying not to turn off or restart the computer, but JAWS 
>>>> didn't say that. My 7 year old son read it to me and asked me if I 
>>>> wanted him to close the window. The computer would have been sitting 
>>>> here with that window open and I would have been getting upset and 
>>>> worried that my computer wasn't starting up properly. Right now, I 
>>>> have a window open for an adobe flash player update, but I don't know
> how to get to it.
>>>> Occasionally JAWS will say, "update ready to be installed" and 
>>>> that's it. I have issues with Fire Fox as well. Every time I open 
>>>> it, I have to use the "alt tab" command twice in order to use the 
>>>> program. Sometimes, when I hit the applications key and scroll up to 
>>>> "send to," it will stop talking before or just after I reach it. IDK 
>>>> if there is an auto correct in Word 2007, but, I'll be typing along 
>>>> and I'll want to go back, re read what I just typed, and somehow my 
>>>> sentences were broken up and rearranged. It does it in my email as 
>>>> well. I use Windows Live Mail because I don't know how to use gmail 
>>>> on the site. -----Original
>>>> Message----- From: Sherry Gomes Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:31 
>>>> PM
>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm 
>>>> tired of I have that happen a lot with internet explorer 9, and it 
>>>> is the application, not jaws, because when everything starts up 
>>>> again, there's a message saying internet explorer stopped working. 
>>>> Outlook too, oh man, it hangs a lot, just freezes and locks up the 
>>>> whole darn computer, particularly first thing in the morning. 
>>>> -----Original
>>>> Message----- From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman Sent:
>>>> Friday, August 24, 2012 8:50 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' Subject: 
>>>> Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of Perhaps the application you're 
>>>> using has stopped responding for some reason. I find this happens 
>>>> periodically in windows 7. Mike -----Original Message----- From:
>>>> blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Nikki Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:27 PM To:
>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org Subject: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of     In 
>>>> the middle of a task, command, or navigating the net, JAWS just 
>>>> stops talking, sometimes with a stutter or short muffle. IDK what 
>>>> it�s doing or why, but there are times when I end up turning offf or
> restarting.
>>>> Sometimes I can get JAWS back on. Any thoughts as to why this is 
>>>> happening? _______________________________________________
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