[Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Sun Feb 19 22:26:44 UTC 2012

Then I stand corrected.  But weren't you saying that it was 
tricky to use a phone system (like Newsline) which has a bunch of 
menus within menus within menus and so forth? I guess it would be 
easier than something like a telephone banking service, as on 
Newsline, unless you're calling from a totally different phone, 
the system will remember your phone number and you don't have to 
reenter your ID number and security code, whereas with a 
telephone banking service or a service like that, you would need 
to enter your pin number or password each time you call in.  By 
the way, does anybody here know if the Newsline app for iOS 
devices is still in the works? What about the NLS app?

Chris

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real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:09:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Newsline works just fine using earbuds.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Ah; so it might be a little tricky to use, say, NFB Newsline's 
phone service
with the iPhone.  Speaking of Newsline, I heard they were working 
on
designing a Newsline app for iDevices; has anyone heard anything 
new on
that? Until that app is designed, if it hasn't been already, you 
could
probably get around this by using Bookshare's Read2Go app to read 
your
newspapers and magazines, as Bookshare has partnered with 
Newsline and
provides many of the newspapers and magazines available on 
Newsline on their
Web site and app.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum
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"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness 
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: 
Sun, 12 Feb
2012 19:38:55 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

The only irksome drawback -- and it's irksome, not lethal -- is 
that it's
hard to navigate telephone systems with menus within menus that 
require
entry of multiple digits after dialing the initial telephone 
number unless
one uses earbuds.  The reason is that when using VoiceOver, a 
proximity
censor determines whether the telephone is up to one's ear or 
lying flat (as
to dial) in order to know whether to activate the speaker or have 
all sound
output come from the slot toward the top of the phone that is the 
earpiece
when talking on the telephone.  This system doesn't always work 
flawlessly
and the phone occasionally switches between earpiece and speaker 
at the
wrong time or doesn't switch fast enough.  However, as one uses 
the phone,
glitches in this system become less of a problem and using 
earbuds solves
the problem completely.  Moreover, occasionally when one answers 
a telephone
call, the system seems to hibernate for about twenty seconds 
where one
cannot hear the caller nor the caller hear one.  However, this 
also seems to
be a function of that proximity censor and holding the phone 
positioned
properly against the ear solves the problem most of the time.

While annoying, this system is a trifle compared to the vast 
accessibility
one gets with the iPhone.

Mike Freeman

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:28 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

I've heard so much favorable press about the iPhone - does anyone 
on the
list who uses one find any drawbacks to using it, other than the 
learning
curve?

Judy
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