[Blindtlk] To Desiree

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sun Feb 26 05:30:38 UTC 2012


I echo all the encouragement David provided here.  Just stay 
positive and use lists like this as a support network! Good luck!

Chris

Chris Nusbaum
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"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Hyde, David W.  (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:51:27 -0600
Subject: [Blindtlk] To Desiree

Hi Desiree.  I do hope that you stay around to read the responses 
to your post.  I am sorry things are going this badly for you.  I 
wish there were something I could do other than just to 
encourage.  I do not have any instant solutions.  I hear the 
anger, the frustration and the loneliness.  Those of us who can 
will do what we can to encourage you, but ultimately you will 
need to make any changes yourself.

We all know that without training and opportunity, blindness is 
not a nuisance, but a life inhibiter.  This is the side of the 
coin many of us don't like to look at.  I think the first thing 
that you might want to try is finding something you like to do, 
and finding others who enjoy it too.  Start a community of 
friends, even virtual ones, around that.  Take a class like from 
Hadley in something interesting.  You can do that from home.  
Reach out to people.  Some of us will listen.

Please let some of us know how you are doing.  I hope that I am 
not writing just for the sound of the clacking of keys.  I am 
sure you are someone who, with some help, can begin to achieve 
your goals.  Just keep in mind how one eats an elephant.  One 
bite at a time.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:29 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Encouraging Medical Students To Be Retina 
Doctors

Hi,
I, too, have been blind all my life, and like you, I live in a 
rural area as well.  It's downright debilitating, not to mention 
degrading, to have to rely on others for transportation, any form 
of transportation, to accomplish the most basic of tasks that 
sighted people take for granted.  I'm 22 years old, and still 
live with my parents because of this problem; I can't go 
apartment hunting, because they don't approve of me moving out.  
I have few friends, because the friends I do have, they don't 
approve of due to racial differences and the fact one was a 
former boyfriend, so in their eyes I should hate him.  A young 
person likes to drink and party at least a little bit, and yet 
the only people I can ask to take me to a liquor store, are, 
guess who, my parents.  Yet what parent wants to deal with the 
reality of their daughter being grown up? So, I don't drag them 
into that aspect of my life.
I live by the Bible for the most part.  One of the ten 
commandments, as you all well should know, is honor thy father 
and mother.  So, as long as I live under their roof, I abide by 
their rules.  I'm not going to hell for making waves when they 
obviously are paying for the gas, the car insurance, and the 
general maintence of the car.
I honestly can't believe I just spoke out about that on an email 
list, and I would sincerely appreciate it if this is being used 
for a study, my name be left out of it.  But I'm nearly at a 
breaking point.  This isn't just about a lack of socialization 
either.  Even tasks that sighted people complain about, like 
grocery shopping, I would take pride in doing on my own.  I would 
be able to say I did that, and I didn't have to be a burden to 
anyone.  I didn't have to be an object, yes, an object, to be 
pitied and belittled and spit upon.  I would give anything to 
have a job, even a low-paying one such as a cashier, if it meant 
I didn't have to go to college.  I abhor the idea of going to 
college, in fact.  I can't see suffering at the hands of ignorant 
people who live to torment someone who's different to somehow 
inflate their already bloated egos.  That's another thing about 
living in a rural area, people are ignorant.  Besides, I have no 
idea what I would want to do, and drifting aimlessly through 
college for 4 years, being taught things the government deems 
acceptable, is beyond stupid.  So, I would love the idea of doing 
a cashier's job, or something similar, but alas, a lack of sight 
prevents this.  I also realize that nothing in this response 
falls in line at all with NFB philosophy, so after I send this 
message, I'm going to unsubscribe from the list, and this can be 
a big fuck you to all you radicals that say blindness is but a 
mere nuisance.  It's been more than that to me.  Not being able 
to drive a car has plummeted me into severe depression, has 
alienated me from society, and stunted my growth and freedom.

On 2/20/12, Mark J.  Cadigan <kramc11 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Michelle



 I would agree that not being able to drive a car when you live 
in an
 area with no public transportation is a hindrance.  Have you 
ever
 considered relocating to an area with public transportation? I 
know
 that that is a logistical nightmare and nearly impossible in 
some
 situations, but getting there, is well worth it.



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Encouraging Medical Students To Be 
Retina
 Doctors


 Johanna,
 First off, allow me to say that I was born without eyes and 
therefore
 have never had eyesight.  However, if you will accept my word 
for what
 it's worth, the story goes that you 'can't miss what you do not 
have'.
 I'd venture to say at least partially that this is a falsehood.

 I live in a rural area and am unable to drive a car.  Most 
people
 think: "So what.  You can't drive a car, big deal."
 What they think and sometimes say is NOT how I feel.  I feel 
like it's
 a huge deal.  There is no transportation *no buses and noone 
available
 to drive me somewhere to catch a bus* even that isn't the route 
of it
 though.

 My best friend is also legally blind though she does have some 
sight.
 We used to sit in what would have been her car on her sixteenth
 birthday if she would have been able to get her license and 
crank the
 stereo in the dead of summer with the windows down just to 
imagine
 the feeling of freedom, the roadtrips we would take, the growing 
up
 we would have done over the course of a spring break or a summer
 spent roadtripping around the country.
 Ovbiously, as blind individuals we can still do this, however, 
to me
 it is the 'absolute freedom' of getting up and leaving exactly 
when I
 Desire to versus waiting for someone else.  It is the 'absolute
 freedom' of walking into my parents room and saying: "I'm going 
to
 visit Elias now, I'll be back in a couple of hours!" versus 
waiting
 for one of them to drop me off.  It's getting out of the car and
 walking into Walmart and reading the labels on food products and
 picking out what I believe to be the healthiest choice versus 
going
 in with a companion whose in a hurry, or waiting at the customer
 service desk for an hour and 15 minutes.  *Note: our Walmart 
doesn't
 have shoppers as I said I'm in a rural place, and I like alot of
 people live off of SSI so don't have the money to buy a label 
reader*

 Ultimately though, it isn't about money anyway, or even 
convenience,
 though I would find these things convenient, who wouldn't? 
Smile.

 It really boils down to the feeling I got the first time I tied 
my
 shoes or the first time I rode a horse by myself or the first 
time I
 Brailled up something without needing any help.  It's that "I 
can do
 this!!!" feeling that I get.  That feeling of as I said before,
 absolute freedom and excitement that I didn't rely on anyone, I 
did
 it myself!! And I'm sooooo proud of myself for doing whatever 
thing
 it might be, ON MY OWN! There's nothing like that feeling.  You 
can't
 buy it or have it given to you or find it in a food or pill or 
even
 another person.  You can only find it within yourself.
 And if I had my eyesight and could experience the glory of a
 sunset/rise, or of looking into someone's eyes and seeing 
through to
 the depths of their soul, or laying eyes on my baby daughter for 
the
 first time, or the person who would become my romantic partner I 
can
 only imagine the exhilaration and excitement and utter pleasure 
it
 would bring me.
 Michelle

 On 2/20/12, Johanna Baccan <24kjo at optonline.net> wrote:
 To All:

 I was asked by Dr.  Steven  Sang one of the top Retina Doctors 
at
 Columbia Presbyterian  Hospital in New York City, new York  to 
speak
 to Columbia University Medical Students.  He wants me to 
encourage
 them to become Retina
 Doctors and Retina Researchers.     I am a 54 year old woman and 
have a
 unusual form of Stargardt's Disease and have been visually 
impaired
 for
 34
 years.  I know that we all have mastered some if not all the
 Techniques of Blindness.  But my talk is going to be on what it
 would mean to regain my vision and what I have missed out on for 
34
 years.  I would like to hear from all of you to let me know what 
it
 would mean to you to have or regain your vision.  What struggles
 have you had.  There has been a declined in Medical Students to
 become Retina Doctors and Researchers in this country.
 As a whole the Blind Community seems to function in a way that
 people don't realize how difficult it really is.  So instead of
 talking how I mastered the Techniques of Blindness I have to 
talk
 about the reality of vision loss.
 These students are exposed to other patients with diseases that 
are
 much more visible and pronounced then our vision loss.  At times 
my
 particular eye disease has been called a Hidden handicap.  
Because
 to look at me even though I use a cane I do not look visually
 impaired at all.  Any suggestions or comments would be greatly
 appreciated.  Thank you.

 Sincerely,

 Johanna Baccan



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