[Blindtlk] A Definition of Kool-aid

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

regardless of shollow or not, i swear i had not even thought of serving poison laced kool-aid.

Bryan Schulz

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: Blind Talk Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A Definition of Kool-aid


  Sorry, but, to speak frankly, I don't buy that explanation.  I do not believe that is at all an adequate answer to what Gary is asking for.  Very shallow indeed; if, that is, you have no better answer.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

  Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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  On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:

  > hi,
  > 
  > sorry, no, i'm not saying the nfb is a cult.
  > some people like kool-aid, some like beer, some sniff the cork and have wine.
  > there's just different intensities to things.
  > 
  > Bryan Schulz
  > 
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Gary Wunder 
  >  To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' 
  >  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:01 PM
  >  Subject: [Blindtlk] A Definition of Kool-aid
  > 
  > 
  >  Rex and Chris, I am disappointed to have to tell you the answer, for the
  >  comment should never have been made. I believe it was 1978 when Jim Jones
  >  convinced his followers to commit suicide after he killed a United States
  >  congressman who was on an investigatory trip to Jones Town. My memory is
  >  that there were 900 followers. Jones gave them Kool-Aid laced with poison
  >  and ordered them to drink it. Those reluctant to drink were reportedly shot.
  > 
  >  Bryan's remark then is meant to refer to people so docile, so cult-like, and
  >  so unthinking that they would willingly forfeit their lives based on what
  >  one man told them to do. We are here accused of being an unthinking cult for
  >  the simple reason that some of us have expressed the hope and belief that
  >  one day we may find a technological solution allowing us to drive and have
  >  put some of our resources into making it come true.
  > 
  >  Bryan, if this is not what you meant,  then I offer to you my profound
  >  apology and stand ready to hear your explanation. If it is indeed what you
  >  meant and we call you on this utterly disrespectful and indefensible remark,
  >  I hope you will apologize. If it is what you meant, you will probably see
  >  yourself as martyred, blasted, or otherwise persecuted, but this is not a
  >  remark I can take casually and explain to others that you are a fine guy but
  >  a little rough around the edges. Freedom of speech is no justification for
  >  the total disregard your comment displays. Neither should freedom of speech
  >  insulate you from the consequences that may come from your mean-spirited
  >  remark. I no longer care to argue to those who write me off list that they
  >  should understand and that you are really a fine guy with a temper and a
  >  cynical attitude that sometimes is off-putting; this last comment of yours
  >  is more than an exploration of a philosophy; it is an indictment of good
  >  people who work in unity to make your life and our own just a bit better.
  >  Let the moderators do as they will regarding your participation.  
  > 
  >  Gary
  > 
  > 
  > 
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