[Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...

[David Andrews]

Tractor-feeds are more reliable, I don't think the other is worth it 
for most people.

Dave

At 01:35 PM 11/10/2012, you wrote:
>Okay...  Another question about the embossers...
>
>    I have noticed that the lower priced machine only allows 
> printing via the tractor feeding, while a bit more expensive 
> machines also allow you to feed cut sheets through the machine.  My 
> question is...  How often do those of you who use an embosser use 
> cut sheets rather than tractor feeding?  In other words, is the 
> additional cost justified by the extra feature of being able to 
> feed individual cut sheets through the machine?
>
>
>Respectfully Yours in Christ,
>James Kelm
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>
>
>>Very good point, and very true!!!
>>
>>Judy
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>
>>
>>>James:
>>>
>>>I agree with you completely on the importance of reading well and on the
>>>fact that a decreasing number of people (blind or sighted) read more than a
>>>headline or two. It's going to catch up with us (society) eventually when we
>>>wonder why China is out-innovating us and when the citizenry thinks
>>>Presidential debates are a substitute for understanding economics, foreign
>>>policy and the consequences of proposed governmental actions in detail.
>>>
>>>That said, I'm perfectly happy with a refreshable Braille display. It's
>>>getting the Braille that counts, not the form it takes. But all bets are off
>>>when it comes to math Braille. Math Braille should *always* be on paper.
>>>
>>>Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Kelm
>>>Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 PM
>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>
>>>Dear Jasmine and group...
>>>
>>>    It is nice to hear that so many folks still enjoy reading in general,
>>>and who enjoy reading the physical book format.  It is sad that so many
>>>people now days, both blind and sighted, simply do not read!  I personally
>>>think that they are missing so much, and while a lot of information can be
>>>gotten via the Internet and all of the magical forms of technology, it
>>>simply is not the same as actually reading a book.
>>>
>>>    Perhaps this will be controversial, and please know that I do not intend
>>>
>>>for it to be!  I am simply stating my own personal opinion...  But I think
>>>that a large degree of social and occupational empowerment can be achieved
>>>by the blind, simply by actually having the skills to read.  Of course this
>>>applies to reading refreshable Braille as well, but I know that for me
>>>personally, simply having the ability to sit down with a book or magazine
>>>has afforded me a nice feeling of equality and compatibility with the
>>>sighted world.  I think that it is a shame that so many young blind people,
>>>are no longer being taught Braille in school!  It is nice to have the luxury
>>>
>>>of when I want, not to have to depend on technology or other advancements
>>>such as this, but to actually sit down and read a book, magazine, or
>>>whatever.  Perhaps this is largely because I am of an age when books held
>>>actual power and a sort of magic.  There is an intimacy when you actually
>>>lay your hands on the words that an author has written, rather than having a
>>>
>>>rather sterol relationship with technology.  Now don't misunderstand me! I
>>>love my technology, and I spend way too much of my time on the Internet!
>>>But there is still something about grabbing a book off of the shelf, sitting
>>>
>>>in my favorite armchair, and reading.  Also, I can read in bed at night,
>>>without having to bother my sighted wife.  LOLL  Sighted folks can't say
>>>that!  *smile*
>>>
>>>
>>>Respectfully Yours in Christ,
>>>James Kelm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasmine Kotsay" 
>>><jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:07 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>I couldn't agree with you more about having an actual hard-copy book to
>>>>read by the fire rather than a refreshable display.  I have a BrailleNote
>>>>Apex, and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I still love my hard-copy
>>>>books! LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>Jasmine
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:18:29 -0600
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>>Dear Judy,
>>>>
>>>>    I debated over getting an embosser VS.  something like a refreshable
>>>>Braille display, and I came to the following conclusion.  Firstly, I hope
>>>>to
>>>>produce material for other blind individuals, churches, etc.  With an
>>>>embosser I will be able to produce material that I can then pass on.
>>>>
>>>>    Secondly, and this may just be a matter of my old age...  LOLL  But
>>>>there is something magical about actually sitting down in the evening with
>>>>an actual physical book.  For some reason, and maybe this is again just a
>>>>matter of my experience, but the image of sitting down in front of a fire
>>>>in
>>>>the fire place in the evening, and holding a refreshable display on my
>>>>lap,
>>>>just doesn't have the same pizzazz.  LOLL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Respectfully in Christ,
>>>>James Kelm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net
>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:10 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi, James,
>>>>
>>>>I have the Juliet Pro 60 and have been very happy with it.  It's a real
>>>>workhorse and does a good job.
>>>>
>>>>As a braille user, I have to ask this question.  Rather than having all
>>>>the braille hard-copy taking up shelf room, do you have a note taker or a
>>>>portable device you can use on which to store digital files?
>>>>
>>>>I have a note taker for home and one for the office, and can carry all
>>>>electronic files on the note taker, or on a thumb drive to download as I
>>>>need them.
>>>>
>>>>Just curious.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Judy
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>>Subject: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>>    I am hoping that you will be able to assist me!  I am looking to make
>>>>a rather sizable purchase, and I am looking for advice on which machine
>>>>will best meet my needs, while also offering the most for the money.
>>>>
>>>>    First of all, let me tell you what uses I will be needing a new
>>>>embosser for...  First of all, as a pastor, I obviously present a Sunday
>>>>message each week.  So I would like to be able to produce my notes each
>>>>week on my computer, and then push a button to have my notes "printed"
>>>>out in Braille for use when I give my message.  These notes will range
>>>>from 3 to 10 pages of Braille at a time.
>>>>
>>>>    Secondly, I want to begin producing material for distribution to other
>>>>churches, organizations, etc.  This means that I will produce a book
>>>>ranging from 50 to 200 pages, and then I want to be able to "print" from
>>>>my computer the material that has been E-mailed to me via pdf, doc, etc
>>>>files.
>>>>
>>>>    Thirdly, of course within a professional office setting, there are a
>>>>number of different situations in which having the ability to print a
>>>>Braille copy of material would be of great use.  This would range from
>>>>copying an E-mail, copying study material that has been produced either
>>>>myself or others, etc.  I would not be producing great numbers of Braille
>>>>pages per week, but the quality and easy of use would be a huge plus!
>>>>
>>>>    The two embossers that I am looking at is the Index Basic-D V4, and
>>>>the Juliet Pro 60.
>>>>
>>>>    What are your impressions of these two machines, or do you have other
>>>>suggestions for me?  Also I should tell you that while I am quite capable
>>>>at general computer usage, I have never worked with an embosser before.
>>>>Do I need any additional equipment such as sound proofing boxes and such?
>>>>I understand that any embosser can be quite loud?
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you so much for your guidance in this matter!