[Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...

Judy Jones jtj1 at cableone.net
Sun Nov 11 03:49:19 UTC 2012 

You can get tractor feed paper in different sizes and weights, so I haven't 
missed using regular cut sheets.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...


> Okay...  Another question about the embossers...
>
>    I have noticed that the lower priced machine only allows printing via 
> the tractor feeding, while a bit more expensive machines also allow you to 
> feed cut sheets through the machine.  My question is...  How often do 
> those of you who use an embosser use cut sheets rather than tractor 
> feeding?  In other words, is the additional cost justified by the extra 
> feature of being able to feed individual cut sheets through the machine?
>
>
> Respectfully Yours in Christ,
> James Kelm
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>
>
>> Very good point, and very true!!!
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>
>>
>>> James:
>>>
>>> I agree with you completely on the importance of reading well and on the
>>> fact that a decreasing number of people (blind or sighted) read more 
>>> than a
>>> headline or two. It's going to catch up with us (society) eventually 
>>> when we
>>> wonder why China is out-innovating us and when the citizenry thinks
>>> Presidential debates are a substitute for understanding economics, 
>>> foreign
>>> policy and the consequences of proposed governmental actions in detail.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm perfectly happy with a refreshable Braille display. It's
>>> getting the Braille that counts, not the form it takes. But all bets are 
>>> off
>>> when it comes to math Braille. Math Braille should *always* be on paper.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James 
>>> Kelm
>>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>
>>> Dear Jasmine and group...
>>>
>>>    It is nice to hear that so many folks still enjoy reading in general,
>>> and who enjoy reading the physical book format.  It is sad that so many
>>> people now days, both blind and sighted, simply do not read!  I 
>>> personally
>>> think that they are missing so much, and while a lot of information can 
>>> be
>>> gotten via the Internet and all of the magical forms of technology, it
>>> simply is not the same as actually reading a book.
>>>
>>>    Perhaps this will be controversial, and please know that I do not 
>>> intend
>>>
>>> for it to be!  I am simply stating my own personal opinion...  But I 
>>> think
>>> that a large degree of social and occupational empowerment can be 
>>> achieved
>>> by the blind, simply by actually having the skills to read.  Of course 
>>> this
>>> applies to reading refreshable Braille as well, but I know that for me
>>> personally, simply having the ability to sit down with a book or 
>>> magazine
>>> has afforded me a nice feeling of equality and compatibility with the
>>> sighted world.  I think that it is a shame that so many young blind 
>>> people,
>>> are no longer being taught Braille in school!  It is nice to have the 
>>> luxury
>>>
>>> of when I want, not to have to depend on technology or other 
>>> advancements
>>> such as this, but to actually sit down and read a book, magazine, or
>>> whatever.  Perhaps this is largely because I am of an age when books 
>>> held
>>> actual power and a sort of magic.  There is an intimacy when you 
>>> actually
>>> lay your hands on the words that an author has written, rather than 
>>> having a
>>>
>>> rather sterol relationship with technology.  Now don't misunderstand me! 
>>> I
>>> love my technology, and I spend way too much of my time on the Internet!
>>> But there is still something about grabbing a book off of the shelf, 
>>> sitting
>>>
>>> in my favorite armchair, and reading.  Also, I can read in bed at night,
>>> without having to bother my sighted wife.  LOLL  Sighted folks can't say
>>> that!  *smile*
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully Yours in Christ,
>>> James Kelm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jasmine Kotsay" <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I couldn't agree with you more about having an actual hard-copy book to
>>>> read by the fire rather than a refreshable display.  I have a 
>>>> BrailleNote
>>>> Apex, and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I still love my hard-copy
>>>> books! LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Jasmine
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:18:29 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>> Dear Judy,
>>>>
>>>>    I debated over getting an embosser VS.  something like a refreshable
>>>> Braille display, and I came to the following conclusion.  Firstly, I 
>>>> hope
>>>> to
>>>> produce material for other blind individuals, churches, etc.  With an
>>>> embosser I will be able to produce material that I can then pass on.
>>>>
>>>>    Secondly, and this may just be a matter of my old age...  LOLL  But
>>>> there is something magical about actually sitting down in the evening 
>>>> with
>>>> an actual physical book.  For some reason, and maybe this is again just 
>>>> a
>>>> matter of my experience, but the image of sitting down in front of a 
>>>> fire
>>>> in
>>>> the fire place in the evening, and holding a refreshable display on my
>>>> lap,
>>>> just doesn't have the same pizzazz.  LOLL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully in Christ,
>>>> James Kelm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, James,
>>>>
>>>> I have the Juliet Pro 60 and have been very happy with it.  It's a real
>>>> workhorse and does a good job.
>>>>
>>>> As a braille user, I have to ask this question.  Rather than having all
>>>> the braille hard-copy taking up shelf room, do you have a note taker or 
>>>> a
>>>> portable device you can use on which to store digital files?
>>>>
>>>> I have a note taker for home and one for the office, and can carry all
>>>> electronic files on the note taker, or on a thumb drive to download as 
>>>> I
>>>> need them.
>>>>
>>>> Just curious.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Judy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>>    I am hoping that you will be able to assist me!  I am looking to 
>>>> make
>>>> a rather sizable purchase, and I am looking for advice on which machine
>>>> will best meet my needs, while also offering the most for the money.
>>>>
>>>>    First of all, let me tell you what uses I will be needing a new
>>>> embosser for...  First of all, as a pastor, I obviously present a 
>>>> Sunday
>>>> message each week.  So I would like to be able to produce my notes each
>>>> week on my computer, and then push a button to have my notes "printed"
>>>> out in Braille for use when I give my message.  These notes will range
>>>> from 3 to 10 pages of Braille at a time.
>>>>
>>>>    Secondly, I want to begin producing material for distribution to 
>>>> other
>>>> churches, organizations, etc.  This means that I will produce a book
>>>> ranging from 50 to 200 pages, and then I want to be able to "print" 
>>>> from
>>>> my computer the material that has been E-mailed to me via pdf, doc, etc
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>>    Thirdly, of course within a professional office setting, there are a
>>>> number of different situations in which having the ability to print a
>>>> Braille copy of material would be of great use.  This would range from
>>>> copying an E-mail, copying study material that has been produced either
>>>> myself or others, etc.  I would not be producing great numbers of 
>>>> Braille
>>>> pages per week, but the quality and easy of use would be a huge plus!
>>>>
>>>>    The two embossers that I am looking at is the Index Basic-D V4, and
>>>> the Juliet Pro 60.
>>>>
>>>>    What are your impressions of these two machines, or do you have 
>>>> other
>>>> suggestions for me?  Also I should tell you that while I am quite 
>>>> capable
>>>> at general computer usage, I have never worked with an embosser before.
>>>> Do I need any additional equipment such as sound proofing boxes and 
>>>> such?
>>>> I understand that any embosser can be quite loud?
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you so much for your guidance in this matter!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully Yours in Christ,
>>>> James Kelm (senior pastor)
>>>> True Hope Church of Duluth
>>>> E-MAIL: office at thcduluth.org
>>>> Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
>>>> Phone: (218) 727-4186
>>>>
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