[Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

Sun Sep 9 02:52:53 UTC 2012

Hi Roger,

Thanks for the explanation of the VOICE program.

The Matilda Ziegler magazine is a weekly electronic magazine with all kinds
of informative and entertaining articles of interest to blind people. You
can subscribe to it via email, read it online, or read it via NFB Newsline.
Check out www.matildaziegler.com for more information and past magazines.
It's one of my favorite magazines to read, and I highly recommend it.

Chris

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any other organization of or for the blind for that matter.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:34 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

OK, well its not really a device, its a program on windows, simbian, and
Android that can be ran using a camera glasses or a webcam of sorts, and a
netbook/laptop for mobile usage. Basically, it simulates true vision with
loudness being brightness, pitch being how high something is compared to the
camera's position, and how far left/right something is in the sterio field
being how far to the left or right something is perspectively to the camera.

I have tied it, and with the help of the kind folks at the seeingwithsound
mailinglist, have found that the back of my bedroom door has some sort of
dark collored markings on it, and that a headboard is a bunch of lines that
go straight for a while ad then slant downwards. and what is this magazine
you speak of?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

> Hi Roger,
>
> I've heard of this device, but I don't think it works quite like the 
> Optacon. From what I read about it, it seemed like some kind of device 
> that simulated the sense of sight by making the blind person feel like 
> he/she is seeing the object being detected by the VOICE. I was kind of 
> intrigued by this technology, but couldn't quite wrap my head around 
> how it works. I would be interested to hear any firsthand accounts of 
> how the technology works from anybody who has actually used the 
> device. By the way, I read about this device in an article in the 
> Matilda Ziegler magazine a few months ago.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>
> Hmm, have any of you tried the vOICe? http://seeingwithsound.com It 
> works, as far as I know about the opticon, like it, only it uses sound 
> instead of tactiles, and is free. http://seeingwithsound.come just in 
> case I misspelled it the first time, LOL.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>
>
>> Absolutely not! Translation into Braille means the unit would be 
>> telling you what it think it sees, not letting you interpret for 
>> yourself what the unit sees.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 17:06, "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike and everyone,
>>>
>>> Now, wouldn't it be great if the Optacon was remade with a Braille 
>>> display so you could read what the Optacon was scanning in Braille?
>>> This is purely hypothetical; I don't even know if it would be 
>>> possible to do this. But it would be very cool if it is possible!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:20 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>>
>>> Jasmine:
>>>
>>> The Optacon doesn't actually read anything: you use the Optacon to 
>>> read stuff using your own brain and fingers. Some people can read 
>>> handwriting; others cannot. I never mastered that skill. However, I 
>>> could read line drawings and some maps. Judy Jones has given you a 
>>> decent description of the Optacon.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:23 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>    Until now, I've never heard ofan
>>> Opticon.  It actually reads handwriting? What actually is an Opticon?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
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