[Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

Sun Sep 9 03:34:21 UTC 2012

Hmm, what is this penpal thing they speak of? is it like a mailing list of 
actual physical mail? In braille? They didn't say much about it on the page 
or anywhere obvious I looked.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction


> Hi Roger,
>
> Thanks for the explanation of the VOICE program.
>
> The Matilda Ziegler magazine is a weekly electronic magazine with all 
> kinds
> of informative and entertaining articles of interest to blind people. You
> can subscribe to it via email, read it online, or read it via NFB 
> Newsline.
> Check out www.matildaziegler.com for more information and past magazines.
> It's one of my favorite magazines to read, and I highly recommend it.
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. Please note that the Ziegler magazine isn't affiliated with the NFB 
> or
> any other organization of or for the blind for that matter.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:34 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>
> OK, well its not really a device, its a program on windows, simbian, and
> Android that can be ran using a camera glasses or a webcam of sorts, and a
> netbook/laptop for mobile usage. Basically, it simulates true vision with
> loudness being brightness, pitch being how high something is compared to 
> the
> camera's position, and how far left/right something is in the sterio field
> being how far to the left or right something is perspectively to the 
> camera.
>
> I have tied it, and with the help of the kind folks at the seeingwithsound
> mailinglist, have found that the back of my bedroom door has some sort of
> dark collored markings on it, and that a headboard is a bunch of lines 
> that
> go straight for a while ad then slant downwards. and what is this magazine
> you speak of?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>
>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> I've heard of this device, but I don't think it works quite like the
>> Optacon. From what I read about it, it seemed like some kind of device
>> that simulated the sense of sight by making the blind person feel like
>> he/she is seeing the object being detected by the VOICE. I was kind of
>> intrigued by this technology, but couldn't quite wrap my head around
>> how it works. I would be interested to hear any firsthand accounts of
>> how the technology works from anybody who has actually used the
>> device. By the way, I read about this device in an article in the
>> Matilda Ziegler magazine a few months ago.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:35 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>
>> Hmm, have any of you tried the vOICe? http://seeingwithsound.com It
>> works, as far as I know about the opticon, like it, only it uses sound
>> instead of tactiles, and is free. http://seeingwithsound.come just in
>> case I misspelled it the first time, LOL.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>
>>
>>> Absolutely not! Translation into Braille means the unit would be
>>> telling you what it think it sees, not letting you interpret for
>>> yourself what the unit sees.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 17:06, "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Now, wouldn't it be great if the Optacon was remade with a Braille
>>>> display so you could read what the Optacon was scanning in Braille?
>>>> This is purely hypothetical; I don't even know if it would be
>>>> possible to do this. But it would be very cool if it is possible!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:20 PM
>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>>>
>>>> Jasmine:
>>>>
>>>> The Optacon doesn't actually read anything: you use the Optacon to
>>>> read stuff using your own brain and fingers. Some people can read
>>>> handwriting; others cannot. I never mastered that skill. However, I
>>>> could read line drawings and some maps. Judy Jones has given you a
>>>> decent description of the Optacon.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:23 PM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>    Until now, I've never heard ofan
>>>> Opticon.  It actually reads handwriting? What actually is an Opticon?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
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