[Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Sun Sep 9 20:53:17 UTC 2012

many people use Jaws or Windoweyes, I am learning Windoweyes.  From my mentor David Stayer, it seems to work better. 
But it is all what you like.

Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
SNG Certified - Accessible Travel Advocate!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
2012 Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
Help fuel the "Dream Machine" of the Imagination Fund by visiting www.nfb.org/imaginationfund to make a donation using your credit card ortext the word "blind" to 85944 and you will automatically donate $10 worth of fuel via your cell phone bill.

> From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:47:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Hi Nikki,
> 
> I understand that. I was just answering them.
> 
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:24 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I understand all that. I think my questions were coming out of anger,
> frustration, and Rhetorically speaking.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:50 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Hi Nikki,
> 
> In regard to your first question, all screen readers would work with all
> programs and Web sites if and only if all programs and Web sites were fully
> accessible. The screen reader developers have already made software to read
> the text on the screen; now it's up to the developers of programs and Web
> sites to make their material accessible to blind people who use these screen
> readers.
> 
> In regard to your other questions, the only answer I have for you is this:
> yes, this world is crazy, but one person can't change it all. That's just
> the way the world is, in my opinion, whether we like it or not! We can
> change some things for the better, but we can't change everything about the
> world and the people who live in it; that would require a change in human
> nature and the personalities of people, which is something I don't think any
> person can do on their own. There are some people who do evil things, but,
> as much as we would like to get rid of all evil, we're always going to have
> some of it in the world. We just need to be ourselves and try to change that
> which is in our control to change. I'm not meaning to sound like a
> pessimist; in fact, I consider myself very optimistic. I'm just trying to
> look at things realistically. I believe we have the ability to change many
> things for the better, and indeed,we have. Just look at the great progress
> our Federation has made since its inception in 1940. But we can't possibly
> change the whole world single-handedly. I'm getting off-topic for the
> discussion meant to be had on this list, so I will end my comments here.
> 
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:51 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
>     Well, here's a question that everyone may have, so I feel like an idiot
> asking, but I'm not trying to impress.
> 
> Why can't they make a screen reader that works for everything? Why do they
> have to keep updating? Why are there hackers who feel it necessary to mess
> with your computer life? Why can't people just be content with what they
> have? Why be better than your neighbor? This world is sick!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Programs is what I mean. For example, it is my opinion that JAWS works
> better than other screen-readers when running MsWord or the other programs
> that are part of the Microsoft Office suite -- PowerPoint, Excel, etc.
> However, other screen-readers do reasonably well with Office programs. On
> the other hand, NVDA handles the Flash updater from Adobe better than any of
> the other screen-reading programs. And on a Mac, the Open Office suite is
> not fully accessible. That's why I'm always nattering on about how it
> depends upon what one desires the computer to do which screen-reader one
> buys.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:10 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
>     I'm confused with that statement. What do you mean by "application"?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:05 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Bonnie:
> 
> Let's be careful. It depends upon what applications one uses whether JAWS
> works "just as well". By the same token, there ar cases where JAWS works
> better than SA or WE and cases where NVDA works better than the others. It
> just depends upon the application.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bonnie Ainsworth
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:19 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Some people use System Access.  I can't remember what the cost was, but it's
> much cheaper than JAWS and works just as well.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> Worry is like a rocking chair; it gives you something to do, but doesn't get
> you anywhere
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gloria Whipple
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:44 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> I have tried using the I pad and found out touch screens are not for me. I
> do wish Voice over was a windows program because I really like it.
> 
> I will give NVDA another try. I couldn't get use to the voice.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail
> .com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail
> .com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com