[Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Sun Sep 9 19:47:52 UTC 2012

Hi Nikki,

I understand that. I was just answering them.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nikki
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:24 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Chris,

I understand all that. I think my questions were coming out of anger,
frustration, and Rhetorically speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:50 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Hi Nikki,

In regard to your first question, all screen readers would work with all
programs and Web sites if and only if all programs and Web sites were fully
accessible. The screen reader developers have already made software to read
the text on the screen; now it's up to the developers of programs and Web
sites to make their material accessible to blind people who use these screen
readers.

In regard to your other questions, the only answer I have for you is this:
yes, this world is crazy, but one person can't change it all. That's just
the way the world is, in my opinion, whether we like it or not! We can
change some things for the better, but we can't change everything about the
world and the people who live in it; that would require a change in human
nature and the personalities of people, which is something I don't think any
person can do on their own. There are some people who do evil things, but,
as much as we would like to get rid of all evil, we're always going to have
some of it in the world. We just need to be ourselves and try to change that
which is in our control to change. I'm not meaning to sound like a
pessimist; in fact, I consider myself very optimistic. I'm just trying to
look at things realistically. I believe we have the ability to change many
things for the better, and indeed,we have. Just look at the great progress
our Federation has made since its inception in 1940. But we can't possibly
change the whole world single-handedly. I'm getting off-topic for the
discussion meant to be had on this list, so I will end my comments here.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nikki
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:51 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

    Well, here's a question that everyone may have, so I feel like an idiot
asking, but I'm not trying to impress.

Why can't they make a screen reader that works for everything? Why do they
have to keep updating? Why are there hackers who feel it necessary to mess
with your computer life? Why can't people just be content with what they
have? Why be better than your neighbor? This world is sick!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:31 AM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Programs is what I mean. For example, it is my opinion that JAWS works
better than other screen-readers when running MsWord or the other programs
that are part of the Microsoft Office suite -- PowerPoint, Excel, etc.
However, other screen-readers do reasonably well with Office programs. On
the other hand, NVDA handles the Flash updater from Adobe better than any of
the other screen-reading programs. And on a Mac, the Open Office suite is
not fully accessible. That's why I'm always nattering on about how it
depends upon what one desires the computer to do which screen-reader one
buys.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nikki
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:10 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

    I'm confused with that statement. What do you mean by "application"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Bonnie:

Let's be careful. It depends upon what applications one uses whether JAWS
works "just as well". By the same token, there ar cases where JAWS works
better than SA or WE and cases where NVDA works better than the others. It
just depends upon the application.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bonnie Ainsworth
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:19 AM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Some people use System Access.  I can't remember what the cost was, but it's
much cheaper than JAWS and works just as well.

Bonnie

Worry is like a rocking chair; it gives you something to do, but doesn't get
you anywhere

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gloria Whipple
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:44 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Question on what is the best screen-reader to use?

Thank you!

I have tried using the I pad and found out touch screens are not for me. I
do wish Voice over was a windows program because I really like it.

I will give NVDA another try. I couldn't get use to the voice.

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail
.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/daizies304%40gmail.com

_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail
.com