[Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

[Chris Nusbaum]

Hi Lloyd,

That is fascinating! Thank you for the information!! I'm 
surprised he hasn't made a version of the Voice for the iPhone, 
as that is the phone which most blind people are using currently.

Chris



 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at sprynet.com
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:02:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

the vOICe is not really a device, but it uses devices you may 
already have.
If you have a webcam connected to your PC, or if you have it look 
at your
screen or the active window or the area around the mouse pointer, 
it
converts the image into a "soundscape" which is an audio signal, 
rescanned
every two seconds, which represents the image.  Probably best 
used with
stereo headphones.  In this representation, an imaginary vertical 
line scans
across the image from left to right.  At each instant, tones are 
generated
with highest pitch being toward the top of the image, and with 
volume of
each pitch corresponding to the brightness of the image at that 
point.  By
default, 64 different frequencies are generated, and 176 vertical 
lines
constitute a two-second scan.  A single vertical line would sound 
like a
burst of noise.  A horizontal line sounds like a tone of constant 
pitch
which lasts the whole 2 seconds, which pans from left to right in 
your
headphones.  A print capital V would sound like a tone which 
falls and then
rises in pitch, repeated every two seconds.  You can adjust most 
of the
parameters of how the image is sonified, including zooming it, 
changing the
scan rate, reversing the video, filtering by one color, etc.

It's a small Windows executable.  People who really get into this 
obtain a
webcam that is built into a pair of glasses, put a portable 
computer in a
backpack (providing for enough ventilation), run the software 
with speech
recognition, and walk around the house or the area learning how 
to
distinguish objects, learning about how occlusion and parallax 
work, etc.

Whereas the Optacon was a direct translation aid (the human has 
to do all
the work of interpreting what the camera sees) for printed 
material, the
vOICe is probably most useful as a direct translation aid for 
sensing the
environment or quick rendering of images that appear on a PC.  
Like the
Optacon, it takes lots and lots of practice to get good at using 
it, and it
remains mostly a subject for experimentation rather than a tool 
that a lot
of blind people are using in their daily lives.  It would not be 
a good
travel aid, in my opinion, because you need to hear environmental 
sounds and
the time to recognize a scene is long.  And Peter Meijer, the 
author, is
careful not to make any claims that it would be a good substitute 
for a cane
or guide dog.  The first version, run in dedicated hardware, is 
now 20 years
old.  I think that the Windows executable is about 15 years old 
(undergoes
continuous improvements).  An Android  version
has been in Google Play for about 2 years.  He also did one for 
Simbian cell
phones, but these are disappearing from the market.

This is probably more than you wanted to know, but I think it is
fascinating.  www.seeingwithsound.com .
Lloyd Rasmussen, Wheaton, MD, W3IUU
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:22 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

Hi Roger,

I've heard of this device, but I don't think it works quite like 
the
Optacon.  From what I read about it, it seemed like some kind of 
device that
simulated the sense of sight by making the blind person feel like 
he/she is
seeing the object being detected by the VOICE.  I was kind of 
intrigued by
this technology, but couldn't quite wrap my head around how it 
works.  I
would be interested to hear any firsthand accounts of how the 
technology
works from anybody who has actually used the device.  By the way, 
I read
about this device in an article in the Matilda Ziegler magazine a 
few months
ago.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:35 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

Hmm, have any of you tried the vOICe? http://seeingwithsound.com 
It works,
as far as I know about the opticon, like it, only it uses sound 
instead of
tactiles, and is free.  http://seeingwithsound.come just in case 
I misspelled
it the first time, LOL.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Cc: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction


 Absolutely not! Translation into Braille means the unit would be
 telling you what it think it sees, not letting you interpret for
 yourself what the unit sees.

 Mike



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