[Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 17:52:24 UTC 2013


Kelby and all,

To clarify, Dr. Jernigan did not write these books alone; rather, he was the
editor of them. These are the NFB's Kernel books.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
williams
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Bard web site has several of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby
Carlson
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Dr.  Jernigan has a book? Do you know what it's called, and where it can be
found? Sorry for the off-topic message, but I don't think I was aware of
this.

Kelby



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11:40:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Being independent is also knowing when to ask for help on your own terms and
not someone elses.
Dr.  Jernigan's book goes into that as well.
He even did a Banquet Speech, again before I became an NFB member maybe some
of you old timers LOL.  Who knew Dr.  Jernigan would know this one where he
got letters from some blind students asking him why he goes sighted guide
and doesn't use his cane.
He of course did a few jokes about it, but when he got down to it he told
the young person who wrote him, sometimes he has to go sighted guide to get
there faster than using his cane, or he might be late for a meeting or
something.
He said it is no shame in asking for help, we all need it sometimes, even
those that are sighted.
It is funny when I used to be able to drive before the gps where in place,
that if i got lost I asked for help.
Or if I couldn't find something the store I asked for help.
It's just knowing when to ask for something, then people assuming you need
the help.

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 From: julielj at neb.rr.com
 To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:27:00 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Justin,

 If it is at all possible I find an employee or someone I'm with to tell me
what's what on the buffet.  I'll wing it alone, if I can't find anyone, but
I don't like doing that.

 I did receive blindness training at the Nebraska Commission for the Blind.
 I learned a lot of stuff there, but I also learned how to learn.  
I mean I
 learned how to ask for the information I need, how to advocate for myself,
how to problem solve and how to have dignity left when what I tried flopped
miserably!  *smile*  I had most of those skills to one degree or another
before training, but daily intense practice sharpened, refined and enhanced
them in rapid fashion.

 I learn by trial and error and necessity.  I have failed at many things
I've  tried.  Some I tried again and had better luck.  Others I decided
weren't  for me.  There are still things I can't do, but would like to
master.

 I read Braille at a miserable 30 words per minute.  I cannot cook fried
chicken to save my life.  I am freaked out by airports.  I have worn
mismatched socks! *smile*  I still use and practice Braille.  I still try
cooking fried chicken every now and then.  I still travel through airports,
even though I don't like it.  I have learned better methods of matching
socks, so I think that is pretty much solved.

 You have to just keep putting yourself out there.  It's a process and
nobody  is perfect, sighted or blind.  We are all learning.

 all my best to you,
 Julie


 -----Original Message-----
 From: justin williams
 Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:58 AM
 To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Sometimes, I see you guys on here and feel like I missed out on some
valuable  skill training somewhere.  I'm not under these illusions that I'm
the best because there aren't very many blind people with my skillset n
columbia.  If you listen to the sighted, as they heap praise that you don't
really deserve  upon you you may think that.  I hope you folks have learned
as much from me as I have you.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Kelby,

 I've found that if I have a choice I prefer to go through a buffet on the
side that puts my guide dog furthest from the buffet.  I'm not worried about

 him being inappropriate, sniffing or snatching food, but if he is in
between

 me and the food, it means that I have to reach over and it's 
awkward.   He
 always positions himself parallel to the buffet, so as I'm facing the
buffet

 he's at a 90 degree angle to me, standing behind me.  When I'm ready to
move

 I turn to line up correctly with the direction of travel, tell him to "step
up" which is something I taught him which means that he should proceed only
a step or two.

 At buffets with regular plates I have filled and carried them 
myself.   Put
 small items like napkins, utensils and straws in a pocket if you can, it
saves valuable hand real estate!  I make multiple trips to get a drink,
soup, dessert etc., rather than trying to make one mega trip.

 The only place I've encountered the tray type of buffet was on a college
cafeteria last summer when I was attending a leadership training thing.  I
found it best for me to ask for assistance in that situation to carry my
tray.  There were lots of little islands, some self service, some with staff

 behind the counter who would take your order.  I think if I were a regular
college student I would have figured out what was what and been able to do
more myself, but for the three days I was there it worked out fine.

 Oh, almost all of the time I find a sighted person to let me know what the
food choices are, but generally I fill my own plate.  Working my guide dog
with food in my other hand hasn't been a problem.  Of course I can't use
hand signals so I have to be mindful to be clear with verbal directions.  He

 knows both, but responds a bit better with hand signals.  Still it hasn't
been a problem.  As much as is possible I try to keep my plate held in front

 of my body, not off to the side, because the guide dog isn't going to
factor

 in the additional width.  Of course a dog can be taught to account for
something  additional on your right side, like a large bag or a baby
stroller you are pulling, but this requires training and practice.

 Anyhow that's how I manage.  I hope others will share some ideas.  Buffets
are not one of my favorite things.  Some more ideas would be great!
 Julie



 -----Original Message-----
 From: Kelby Carlson
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:26 AM
 To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Subject: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 (This may have already been sent; e-mail is glitching.)

 I wish I could come to Maryland, as I'd love to know how y'all do  buffet
lines.  (Especially when their are trays and guide dogs
 involved.)

 Kelby S.  Carlson

 Vanderbilt University


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